4-4-0 and 2-6-6-2 in On30 to be produced

[ksivils]

I almost hate to post this message here, but given the pestering of the poor BachMAN on this site about the desire for a 4-4-0 in On30, I can post the news so we will leave him alone on this matter.

MMI, the die-cast division of PSC, has announced a 4-4-0 to be released in both On3 and On30.  You can go to the web site for Southwest Narrow Gauge to see the exact details.

MMI will also be bringing in the Uintah/Sumpter Valley 2-6-6-2s in both On3 and On30.

With the arrival of these two locomotives, the Kentwood & Southern will only be lacking a Heisler, hint, hint, and its steam roster will be complete!

[mmiller]

are you referring to the Southwest Narrow Gauge Yahoo group?

I don't see anything there at all, other a snippet about someone seeing something about 4-4-0's on PSC website...and I can't find any mention of On3/On30 4-4-0's at PSC's site either...

not that I doubt your word (I've heard similar rumors), but maybe you could post a link to where the additional info is?

[Hamish K]

are you referring to the Southwest Narrow Gauge Yahoo group?

I suspect this is the website ksvilis meant :

http://www.i-sng.com/On3/On3_Locomotives/Die_cast_loco/die_cast_loco.html

See bottom of the page.

I have seen these locos mentioned on other sites as well.

Personally I am not interested in either of these and hope that Bachmann does not duplicate them.

Apart from a Heisler a three truck Shay in the 55-60 ton range, an A class Climax or a Maine 2-6-2 are my suggestions for Bachmann. A small 2-4-0 tender loco, which could probably be based on the Porter as prototype locos were as small as 7 tons, could also be a nice addition.

Hamish

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Hamish

[mmiller]

thanks a lot...

I guess I just had Yahoo stuck in my mind...

[C.P.R.R. Manager]

This isn't a surprise, really.  There was an interview in the On30 Annual with the head honcho of MMI, and he mentioned a 4-4-0 there.  MMI does nice work, but their 4-4-0 will probably cost 2-3 times more than a Bachmann version.  I just don't think I can get this past the C.P.R.R. accounting department.

[David(UK)]

Me neither - head accountant has just done her nut after totting up my 0n30 purchases since christmas!
I did look at the prices and even at the special offer price, I think it would go down like a lead balloon - Me -'Honey, it's under $400' ( that's around £220 with customs and shipping on top ) Her indoors -  'Sweety, that's a nice weekend in Paris!"

[ksivils]

Bachmann and MMI probably compete for a slightly different market.  I probably won't get a 4-4-0, as much as I want one, but have to have a 2-6-6-2 - this will be the only truly BIG POWER on my railroad.

My favorite type of locomotives, narrow gauge or standard, are the big articulated locomotives.  I am willing to pay for one of these - it will be the "showcase" locomotive on the lay-out.  I am also willing to bet that since it is die-cast, it will be heavy and will be able to pull every piece of rolling stock I own.

Again, MMI probably gets more of the "brass oriented" modeler as their stuff is well detailed - it is just that the price of brass had become unaffordable.  Die-cast allows for nearly as detailed locomotives at a reasonable price - compared to that of the same locomotive in brass.

[kenruof]

I hate to burst everyones bubble but I went to www.precisionscaleco.com and looked up the 4-4-0. It is listed in the HOn3 group and not the On3/On30. Unless I am mistaken this engine is not O but HO scale 

I did not find any listing for the 2-6-6-2 but that does not mean it is not coming.

SWNG lists both these engines at www.i-sng.com in On3 and On30, I will wait and see before getting excited.

Ken

[Steve Magee]

The announcement is here, and it is On30 (and On3):

http://www.railcar.com.au/mountain%20model%20imports.htm

Steve

[BIG BEAR]

        Bachmann isn't the first on this On30 item, But I'll still wait for theirs at 1/4 the price. My Spectrum Moguls and trolley have great plenty of detailing for my taste.   BACHMANN ALL THE WAY!!!

              Barry

[epeorus]

I agree.  MMI still has my K27 and can't figure out why the sound doesn't work (it ran for two feet on my test track a year ago).  I am a little put off by MMI but will consider the 4-4-0 but will gladly wait another year or two if Bachmann just hints that they will produce one instead.

[C.P.R.R. Manager]

The only thing I worry about here is that if MMI builds a 4-4-0, Bachmann might delay their own 4-4-0, thinking that the market is diminished.  I'm no expert in this market, but I would think that any On3/On30 guy who would be willing to spend $400 on an MMI 4-4-0, would be more than willing to purchase another, slightly different 4-4-0 from Bachmann, if the price were in the $120-150 range.

[kenruof]

I agree,

Since I buy engines in 2's I would gladly pay $300~$400 for 2 4-4-0's if they are detailed and run like the B-mann 2-8-0's.

I do like the size and looks of the Rio Grand 4-4-0's but that extra $400 would buy a lot of steel hoppers that my RR is short of  .

Ken

[mmiller]

for me it will depend on what Bachmann uses as a prototype for their hoped for On30 4-4-0...

if it's a uncommon "export-ish" or obscure prototype loco, I'd probably have to start mowing laws or something to make the extra cash needed for MMI's North American standard 4-4-0 

[C.P.R.R. Manager]

I would like to see the On30 4-4-0 use the same prototype as the LS 4-4-0.  I'm not sure if the prototype is the Eureka, or some catalog loco, but the lines are great.  Presumably the drawings are already done, and "just" need to be re-engineered for 1:48.  And wouldn't the Eureka look great in On30, even if we had to pay extra for the paint scheme.

Still, as pretty as a 4-4-0 would be, it wouldn't look good on 18" curves.