GP50

nscaler711 · September 09, 2007, 07:51:50 PM

People you have to get one of these!
i got one today and it runs so beautifuly for a standard line i am not even joking!!, a bit noisey but a bit of lube in the motor will shut her up!!!

It maybe a UP ( UP never owned any but i dont care!! ) but it runs awesomely!!

nscaler711 · September 10, 2007, 05:47:17 PM

ok but i will tell you this. after using some lube it is now 20% quieter even at high speeds!!
At 35 smph you cant hear much a lil bit of groaning but not much, that and i ran her all night long and so she is a good runner

Inder · September 10, 2007, 08:28:53 PM

That's good to know.
I ordered one a few days ago and I'm waiting for it.

Hunt · September 11, 2007, 12:57:31 AM

Quote from: nscaler711 on September 09, 2007, 07:51:50 PM
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It maybe a UP ( UP never owned any but i dont care!! ) but it runs awesomely!!

Check UP GP50s at http://utahrails.net/up/up-wwd.php

conradin · September 11, 2007, 02:13:06 AM

Quote from: nscaler711 on September 09, 2007, 07:51:50 PM
People you have to get one of these!
i got one today and it runs so beautifuly for a standard line i am not even joking!!, a bit noisey but a bit of lube in the motor will shut her up!!!

It maybe a UP ( UP never owned any but i dont care!! ) but it runs awesomely!!

Exactly *where* around the motor should I lube? I have a BN.

fieromike · September 11, 2007, 08:32:54 AM

Quote from: conradin on September 11, 2007, 02:13:06 AM
Quote from: nscaler711 on September 09, 2007, 07:51:50 PM
People you have to get one of these!
i got one today and it runs so beautifuly for a standard line i am not even joking!!, a bit noisey but a bit of lube in the motor will shut her up!!!

It maybe a UP ( UP never owned any but i dont care!! ) but it runs awesomely!!

Exactly *where* around the motor should I lube? I have a BN.

First, go to your local hobby shop and buy a bottle of PLASTIC COMPATIBLE oil. Anything else will have the potential to ruin your loco.

Second, disassemble your loco far enough to see the shaft(s) where they enter the motor.

Third, apply ONE SMALL drop of oil on the shaft where it enters the motor. The oil will travel down the shaft and lube the shaft bushings. Too much oil can ruin the motor by softening the brushes or gumming up the commutator; ONE DROP ONLY!

Fourth, reassemble and enjoy!

Mike

nscaler711 · September 12, 2007, 06:19:44 PM

Mike you beat me to it!
And the UP didnt have any Hi hood GP50's

fieromike · September 12, 2007, 11:03:57 PM

Quote from: nscaler711 on September 12, 2007, 06:19:44 PM
Mike you beat me to it!
And the UP didnt have any Hi hood GP50's

Aww, man! Do you have any idea how many bubbles you've just burst?

Mike

nscaler711 · September 13, 2007, 07:07:49 PM

sorry.
but you could repaint the units
to a diff RR

fieromike · September 13, 2007, 11:19:38 PM

Quote from: nscaler711 on September 13, 2007, 07:07:49 PM
sorry.
but you could repaint the units
to a diff RR

N&W comes to mind. A friend calls the color "13 dip black".

Mike

Inder · September 13, 2007, 11:31:10 PM

I just got mine in the mail today.

It ran very slow at first but after a few minutes it began to speed up.
Overall it runs smooth and quiet but it's a bit on the slow side.

David Leonard · September 15, 2007, 09:06:14 AM

Fieromike, your friend's description ("13 dip black") reminded me of the origins of similar descriptions. Back in the 70's the magazine Extra 2200 South coined the term "13D" to characterize plain dark paint schemes like the NW used. "13D" referred to a string of adjectives ("dark," "depressing," "dreary," "dismal," etc.) I don't remember all 13 words, but they all started with the letter "d," hence "13D." IIRC the term "dip job" came later and applied to any one-color-with-no-decoration paint scheme.

nscaler711 · September 15, 2007, 03:20:34 PM

well i need a replacement motor, I guess 14 volts is way too much power

stupid DCC....lol

kevin2083 · September 16, 2007, 07:11:58 PM

14 volts shouldn't be too much power. I have a MRC Tech 4-something, and it puts out up to 23 volts yet i haven't burnt out any motors. Did you leave it sitting too long without moving it? That'll do in some motors.

taz-of-boyds · September 17, 2007, 10:34:56 PM

I don't know, maybe some people are just paranoid, but I have seen lots of warning about N scale motors are 12 volts and that's it. At least one thing, if it will survive higher voltages that is not so bad, but keeping the voltage 12v or less might prolong motor life?

Anyway, it you time your loco's and keep the speed in the 20 to 40 to 80 mph range (not the markings on the controller, you need to actually time the loco over measured track and convert to miles per hour) you may never get over 12 volts. One of the guys somewhere wrote if you can see it moving it is going to fast (joking a little about prototype speeds). The thought of an 1870's 4-4-0 going 140 mph should be scary!

I measure the output of my controller now and then and keep the voltage 12v or less to the track (varies by locomotive and load etc.).

Amazing how slow some real trains go,
Charles

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