Bachmann B&O EM-1

[Rashputin]

  Thanks for this engine and I'm sure it'll be up to the great standard you've set for the Spectrum line. It's an engine that has always been popular with both B&O and other modelers and I hope you are very well rewarded with great sales of this engine. I will be doing my part by purchasing four and possibly even five. Why? Because they are my favorite articulated after the Y6b brutes and the money I had been saving to purchase a brass engine or two with will now go to these engines.

  All too often companies respond to what modelers say they want only to be greeted with nit pickers and naysayers. I wanted to be sure you know that at least some of us really appreciate it when a company makes the extra effort required to do something actually new rather than releasing yet another one of the most common models.

  Thank you again, Regards

[jward]

the em1 was the closest thing to a big boy we had on the east coast. i am sure once the word gets out on the b&o group they will be lining up.

[Guilford Guy]

Bachmann is one of a handful of major manufacturers that takes forum information to heart. Kudos to that, and providing a product that has been requested time and again. And this is where I sneak in my ploy- B&M 2-6-0s!

[J3a-614]

I said it before, and I say it again--Whoo--ee! 

This is one machine B&O fans have been wanting for years.

Now, she has 63-inch drivers, box-pok pattern--axle spacing will be about 67 inches more or less--all Yellowstones had the same or very close driver sizes, and would have that same axle spacing, although the Northern Pacific's pioneer versions of the type had a slightly longer spacing between a set of axles on the lead engine to accommodate the sliding bearing that transferred the weight of the boiler to the front engine, and this was also in the rear engine in the interests of standardizing rods between the two--and the DM&IR engines also had box-poks--and were also built by Baldwin--and were regularly leased to the D&RGW in the winter, when the DM&IR was shut down due to ice--and the Iron Range locomotives were patterned after a large 2-8-8-2 used by both D&RGW and WP--wonder what else can be made with similar parts out of the bin?

[barlojo1]

Thank you for this great engine. I will be stopping at my local hobbyshop tomorrow to order one, maybe 2. Hoping for DM&IR M-3 or M-4, I have 40 ore cars waiting for one. Also consider SP AC-9 2-8-8-4, also 63" drivers and similar cylinders. Nice alternative to all those cab-forwards.

John B

[GN.2-6-8-0]

WOW! Where did this thread come from.....Bachmanns going to be bring out a Spectrum B&O EM-1 ? Come'on guys fess up ' where'd ya hear about this....

[Nigel]

WOW! Where did this thread come from.....Bachmanns going to be bring out a Spectrum B&O EM-1 ? Come'on guys fess up ' where'd ya hear about this....

http://mrr.trains.com/News%20and%20Reviews/New%20Products/2011/07/2011%20National%20Train%20Show%20preliminary%20report.aspx?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MR_SpecialEmail_sa_110708_final&utm_content=

[jonathan]

Horizon Hobby is now taking orders at $425.  Expected delivery is November 2011.  I'm sure that estimate is a bit exaggerated.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Reviews.aspx?ProdID=BAC80403

Regards,

Jonathan

[jettrainfan]

$425?! If it had sound I'd think about it... i think i'll wait till modeltrainstuff.com stocks it and its probably gonna be $100 cheaper at least. 

[Steam is King]

I'm happy for you B&O fans, but if that is all that Bachmann is coming out with for HO Spectrum Steam, I'm disappointed. We desperately need a Spectrum 2-6-2 and the Ventura County Baldwin is just screaming to be done!

I hope that this engine meets and exceeds y'all's expectations. I'll just have to hope for a 2-6-2 and even a nice USRA Lt. Pacific later on...

[J3a-614]

Hey, Steam is King, check out what headlines the New Products flyer--it's not your 2-6-2, but it isn't the EM-1, either. . .I think you will be pleased, as will the New Englanders here.

[h-man]

i really wish i could get one of these but..... a 14 year-old has a hard time getting his hands on four hundred dollars.... give-away? hahaha! nah

[J3a-614]

I have a strange brain.  Someone will mention something, or I'll read something, and it will tickle my brain cells and make them think of or recall something else.

In this case, it was supposedly an additional or add-on order for 2 of these Eastern Yellowstones for a shortline railroad, the Bingham & Garfield. These engines are mentioned in a lengthy article on the history of Mallets by Henry B. Comstock in the March 1944 edition of Railroad Magazine (Comstock was also the editor at the time).

Obviously, nothing actually came of this, but it is interesting that such a pair of modern articulateds were being considered for a short line only 35 miles long!  It would be equally interesting to find out what actually happened.

According to what sources I can find, the Bingham & Garfield was a subsidiary of the Utah Copper Company (later Kennecott Copper), and had a main line just over 35 miles long in 1911, running between a mine in Bingham Canyon and a smelting operation at Garfield, Utah. Interchange was with the Los Angeles & Salt Lake (later Union Pacific) at Garfield. Additional interchanges would be opened between the Denver & Rio Grande Western at Magma, Utah, and the Western Pacific at Garfield.

The whole railroad would be replaced by a new "low grade" railroad in 1947, and was listed as abandoned in 1948.

http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/bingarr.htm

Apparently the road had at least one very impressive bridge:

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... SOPTR=3525

Desolate country, and a Mallet:

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... SOPTR=6493

Heavy power on the B&G:

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... X=1&REC=14

Some other photos:

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... X=1&REC=15

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... OX=1&REC=9

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... X=1&REC=13

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_v ... X=1&REC=16

Quite a roster variety for a road with only 5 or 6 engines--so far, have found photos of an 0-6-0, an 0-8-8-0 (which reminds me of a B&O EE-1), and another engine on a passenger train that could be a 2-8-0 or a 4-6-0.

General collection:

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/result ... ld+Railway

Other photos:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/ ... /bgrr1.jpg

http://www.funimag.com/wordpress/wp-con ... 12-001.jpg

Caption from a history page on the Nevada Northern: "Fireman and Head Brakeman are on the seat box of No. 95 on this ore train that may be adjacent to the Boston spur. Three Bingham & Garfield (Utah) ore cars followed by three 900-series cars and finally another Utah car."

http://history.nevadanorthernrailway.ne ... 95lane.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/289 ... 07ef83.jpg

What I found on the replacement railroad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennecott_ ... _rail_line

Promotional footage for a video on Utah electric roads, including the "new" Kennecott line, interurbans, and a touch of the Nevada Northern:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7uz7FhWIo

Copper mining in 1952:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpHRkrr ... re=related

Looks like the mine is worked with trucks today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CDo9uNjFIk&NR=1

More information and other photos, including some in color:

http://www.utahrails.net/bingham/bingham-notes.php

http://www.utahrails.net/bingham/bingham-after-1981.php

http://www.utahrails.net/bingham/kcc-di ... c-loco.php

Have fun--and incidently, does anybody know the story behind these proposed Yellowstones that would have worked for Kennecott Copper?

[jettrainfan]

i really wish i could get one of these but..... a 14 year-old has a hard time getting his hands on four hundred dollars.... give-away? hahaha! nah

Don't worry, start saving up, or you might get it for your birthday if you ask for it i usually start out with $100 a year spending money,  i usually end up saving up about 300 in a year... till i go to the hobby shop and they have all the good cars out... i walk out with 3-5 cars... and $50-60 dollars lighter... about 2-3 times a year 

To let you know, im only 15, and i still haven't got a job because of the economy. But like i said, save up. A good way to earn some extra cash is to ask around your neighborhood and see if they'll hire you to do some odd jobs, don't expect it to come fast, but in about a month, you might be more than a 1/3rd to your goal!

[Doneldon]

jtf-

That's some sound advice.

              -- D