E44

e44e33 · February 07, 2007, 06:19:06 PM

Mr. Bach Man,
Should I continue to modify E33 frames to accept my brass E44 bodies, or can we expect to see an E44 from Bachmann in the future?

Rich Clark

the Bach-man · February 07, 2007, 10:22:46 PM

Dear Rich,
None has been announced, so keep working...
Have fun!
the Bach-man

lapuce033 · February 20, 2007, 11:19:17 AM

I think that the E44 would make alot of people in the hobby happy especially in HO scale...

Terry

Conrail Quality · February 20, 2007, 08:51:52 PM

Of course, as long as they get the Conrail paint scheme done right...

Conrail Quality · September 28, 2007, 08:26:30 PM

With the E60 re-release coming closer, I figured it was an appropriate time to resurect this old topic. Is there any chance of an E44? And on a side note, will we ever see an E33 in N-scale?

Woody Elmore · September 29, 2007, 08:37:37 AM

Let's be gentlemen and not mention Penn Central or Conrail on this board.

I ran in horror as the grandson of a friend of mine proudly showed me the HO layout he built in his play room. It was really nice but when I saw his PC GG-1 (he said he got a deal on Ebay) I froze. Yikes.

Equally horrible is any GG-1 in Conrail blue (or where they black - couldn't bear to look too long - afraid of eye damage) with that silly white can opener thing on its side.

I vote for an E-44 in NH colors!

Conrail Quality · September 29, 2007, 10:33:07 AM

Quote from: Woody Elmore on September 29, 2007, 08:37:37 AM

Equally horrible is any GG-1 in Conrail blue (or where they black - couldn't bear to look too long - afraid of eye damage) with that silly white can opener thing on its side.

Only one Conrial GG-1 got that honor, and that's because it had been painted into bicentenial colors.

The rest loked like this.

I agree, Conrail was less than imaginative in their paint schemes.

Nice idea about the NH E44. Do you mean in green and gold, on in orange and black? Somehow I can't imagine an E44 in green and gold.

BillD53A · September 29, 2007, 05:05:38 PM

Rivets was painted CornRail blue.

BillD53A · September 29, 2007, 05:33:36 PM

GG1 # 4800 (originally 4899) was the first of the class. It had a riveted car body. In 1978 it was painted in Conrail Blue. It was the only G to get that paint job. In 1969, 4902 was painted blue with yellow lettering to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the driving of the gold spike. In 1955, 3 units, 4866, 4872 and 4880 were painted silver.

From 'The GG1 Homepage'

http://www.spikesys.com/GG1/paint.html

BillD53A · September 29, 2007, 06:06:02 PM

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr4902a.jpg
(4902 in American Railroads Centennial blue)

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr4800r.jpg
(Rivets in CR blue)

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr4800atd.jpeg
(Rivets in Bicentennial)

All from George Elwood's "Fallen Flags" website

BillD53A · September 29, 2007, 06:09:34 PM

Sorry, the last URL was supposed to be:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr'cr4800atd.jpg

BillD53A · September 29, 2007, 06:11:32 PM

AAARRGGGHH!!!

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr4800.atd.jpg

(you already saw a picture of that anyway!)

r.cprmier · September 30, 2007, 09:31:32 AM

OK, Woody;
You rattled the bushes and out I came...I'm with you!!! New Haven GG-1!

ONLY.........in PRE-McGUINNES Pullman Green and Imitation Gold. Can't you just see it now...a BIG New Haven herald in resplendant calligraphy on the nose! I love it!!!!!

Rich

PS: No one will believe me about the DL-109s painted in aluminum with white pins and herald. I used to see them on the Old Colony line a lot as kid.

Woody Elmore · September 30, 2007, 10:01:44 AM

I realize that there are people who model the Penn central and Conrail.

The PC was a sad era for railroading in general and I just never developed an interest for Conrail. Look at the picture of the Conrail GG-1 posted above. I think it's awful (remembering riding behind a GG-1 with the gold cat whisker striping.)

I never did see a real Conrail GG-1 with that wheel and rail logo (which I call a can opener.) My recollection is seeing a model in custom (!) paint at one of the Timonium shows. Very weird looking.

The New Haven had lots of interesting color schemes but I remember the electrics in orange and black. I was very happy to see that they (the MTA?) restored an FL-9 to the Maginnis colors. They were in awfully bad shape.

The New Haven green was classy and much nicer than the later circus colors. I have no idea if the E-44's were ever painted in green and gold.

r.cprmier · September 30, 2007, 01:16:43 PM

E-44s-EF-4s-"Bricks"-were all painted red with the white striping and black lettering. I don't know who did the artwork for the New Haven, but they did a classy job-always...except for that "PT Barnum" paint scheme. Have you ever seen the picture of the DL-109 in that paint scheme? I am not one to feel sorry for a mechanism, but the poor loco deserved better! All I can think of is Dumbo in that awful clown costume.
To me, that paint scheme represents the worst era of New Haven history -and the New Haven had a history of rapacious board members, and nefarious operations.

The E-33 "brick" was one of the more intelligent moves the New Haven made in purchasing them from the "Virginian". They provided dependable service to the freight operations-especially hauling the "float trains", and the TOF trains. These wre rugged, well-built engines,and had been well-cared for by their parent railroad. There is a picture of one night shot at Oak Point yard, in which one is raising its pan to the wire. What a beautiful picture!!

The other "motors", with the exception of one EP-3 and all of the "jets" (EP-5s) were all left green and gold. The New Haven "motors" were a really neat looking, well-running group of locomotives, products of Baldwin, Westinghouse, and GE. I would love to see them reporduced in HO scale at a reasonable price.

RIch

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