Everything on the air shipment has arrived with Bachmann today. Trainworld will have them at the latest next week.  As a refresher this is Emily in N, her coaches, N Gordon, N Henrietta, the 12 ton vans, Rebecca, and the Topham car. 
 
The slate trucks, Emily set, and Hannah are set to arrive in stock around post-Christmas, between new years, may potentially be pushed back to 2025 but will be very early.

Human figure packs are in box, Doug is unsure when they'll release. Early 2025 at some point. Really cool to see all of these in box products right now. They all look so good.

Also shown off is painted Stanley. Literally perfect I have no notes. He is so good love how the paint finish comes off on camera.  That's it for Thomas Tuesday Bachmann wise.  However, the guest Knowah does some really awesome stuff. I got to see some of their stuff in person in January. They are so much like the show highly recommend going to see them at a train show if you are ever able to.

Haven't been able to catch up on the stream yet but I'm very surprised Toby's Shed hasn't emerged in the range yet. I could easily see it passing for a plastic building too, since resin is off the table. It's dual use, combined with the Farmer McColl figures coming out makes it seem like a very good future building choice.

Thank you for the responses! 

Never mind, figured it out.

I have some thoughts from Christian's stream that I wanted to share here regarding two product suggestions.

Firstly, I was the one who mentioned Norman in the stream chat, and he actually said something interesting I had never considered. When I was considering Norman, I was always considering the fact he could be reused for Dennis. However, Christian made the point people may but two Norman's to make Dennis out of the gate. Something I'd never really thought of before, and it's true. That could easily boost his sales. I was already pretty big on Norman being sooner rather than later, but that just gave me more justification for him.

On to the resin buildings. On New Model Monday they actually discussed the resin buildings potentially coming back. Their response was very much "Not in the cards right now, but we wouldn't be opposed to it and may look into it."  I loved Christian's suggestions regarding the resin line. I think bringing the signal box back is a must. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the signal box was the first one removed from the catalog, which at least to me suggests it sold out from the final resin batch first. (Typically it would mean the opposite, but IIRC the resin line had stopped production all together and remaining items in the catalog were left over stock). It's definitely very popular. Maithwaite is also a good choice, however, I much prefer the method Mulfred suggested for selling the stations. That's how Hornby used to do it and I think it would boost sales across the line. Say if Ffarquhar got announced, selling the platform separate from the main building would allow consumers to buy the second platform that is seen in the CGI Series. Let people build it how they want it rather than only offering it as the building and a single platform. The retaining wall Christian mentioned is also a very smart pick.

I have a bit of an out their suggestion for the resin line that's been in my brain since that livestream, and once again will be curious on everyone's thoughts once again. I don't think it should necessarily be in the immediate relaunch; I think the ones Christian suggested are the perfect candidates, but I still wanted to throw it a bone.

Toby's Shed


Now, a pretty iconic location in its own right. It's where one of the most popular characters lives, and has been in the series for many years. However. I wanted to suggest a wider appeal reason in favor of it.

In CGI they actually made the same asset for Toby's shed twice. There were some differences, but they are miniscule. This is actually the same way for the Iron Twins and Diesel if anyone was curious, they are actually completely different remade assets, not modified from Diesel. (Paxton and Sidney may be the same way but I'm not as sure on that front)

The second Toby's shed is used at McColl's farm .


Now, some differences for it exist as shown in this image. But you could still plop Toby's shed as is down on a layout and still use it as this farm shed. If they wanted to go for complete accuracy customer could mod it themselves, or Bachmann could include accessories but that may be a harder sell. In the model series these buildings are the exact same however, so it'd really come down to the preference of the modeler. The building is also reused for a few other things in the model series, Elizabeth's shed comes to immediate mind. There may be other examples as well I'm forgetting.  My ultimate point is this shed could have multiple uses. And therefore, could have wider appeal. Fans may either buy multiples to plop permanently on layouts, or even if they buy only one it could be used for a variety of set building purposes. I think it would prove a popular destination, especially if they specifically marketed it as Toby's shed because that association may help it even further.

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Quote from: Mulfred100 on November 14, 2024, 03:15:34 AMI'm sorry but it sounds like your friend isn't asking the right questions.  It too me sounds like they asked "are you making Henry because you have Gordon's Chassis?" And not "will Henry share the same Chassis as Gordon?" Or "will Henry reuse Gordon's Chassis?" I mean what exactly was the question they asked? Because it does sound to me based on what you wrote that was "are you making Henry because you have Gordon's Chassis?"

However based on the CGI Orthos, the history of the model series and how Bachmann made the HO there's 0 reasons why Bachmann won't reuse it again for N Scale for not only a cost effective production but also keeping consistent with the show. Why spend extra money on producing a new chassis tooling when you already have the perfect one in your arsenal?

Arguing about it just sows seeds of doubt and isn't helpful.

Exact question asked was "Will Henry reuse Gordon's chassis?" followed up by "Was he chosen because it would be easier to reuse the chassis" for clarification.

Answer given: We chose Henry because he was a popular character, no design work has been looked into yet (to his knowledge). Whether we will reuse the chassis or not will come down to looking at the cgi references to see if they can be. If Gordon's chassis are deemed not accurate enough, they will just make a new one.

Given Toad is a new mold in N scale even though he could have been reused from the graham farish tooling I'm not particularly sure where cheapness and ease falls for N scale. Since his exact reasons outlined were the existing tooling wasn't accurate enough. Don't think we'll have an answer until reveal. Personally, betting on chassis reuse though, looking at the CGI ortho sheets they're the exact same after all.

Didn't particularly want this to become an argument. Was just responding to person saying "it will definitely be recycled" and say we shouldn't use that kind of hard statement when we don't know for sure. Not trying to cause an argument or doubt, just trying to keep this place as informative as possible with the info we do have. 

So again you've no proof that it won't happen, so stop putting doubt into peoples minds based on someone else asking someone else a question.

What possible reason would Bachmann have for not reusing the chassis? It'll be more expensive to produce, take more time to get the product on the market so meaning a longer return on the items production. They are the exact same throughout the entire history of the show and history of Bachmann making these engines. Seriously just think about it. There's 0 reason for Bachmann to differ from what they have done in the past and it's not like Henry suddenly became a 4-4-0 or something in the CGI era

Yes but again which we have had this exact conversation before Toad is a brakevan and cheaper and easier too tool then a big tender engine.  they can afford to be less focused on costs when it comes to something that costs $25.99 to buy.

There's no reason why Bachmann wouldn't recycle Gordon's Chassis.

And no one wants it to be an argument lol but consider the facts and read how sometimes if you say something out loud it plants the doubt in people's minds when there doesn't need to be any

If you want clarification ask in the stream or something, but honestly this feels like we are arguing over something that's obvious, like just as obvious as will Henry have a number 3 and be painted green.

Lastly look at what was said earlier in the year. 2024 was a catch up year, and everything new that was announced in NMRA 2024 has all used existing tooling, Sidney and Mainland uses Diesels, the Tar tanker uses the tanker tooling, Flatbed with oil drums uses the old paint pot tooling with the Flatbed tooling used in that and the logging company Flatbed. China clay wagon uses the open wagon tooling, Hannah uses Henrietta's tooling. There's only the brake-van and Henry's body and tender that's really new tooling which lines up with a company saying "we are having a catchup year"

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Quote from: Mulfred100 on November 14, 2024, 03:15:34 AMI'm sorry but it sounds like your friend isn't asking the right questions.  It too me sounds like they asked "are you making Henry because you have Gordon's Chassis?" And not "will Henry share the same Chassis as Gordon?" Or "will Henry reuse Gordon's Chassis?" I mean what exactly was the question they asked? Because it does sound to me based on what you wrote that was "are you making Henry because you have Gordon's Chassis?"

However based on the CGI Orthos, the history of the model series and how Bachmann made the HO there's 0 reasons why Bachmann won't reuse it again for N Scale for not only a cost effective production but also keeping consistent with the show. Why spend extra money on producing a new chassis tooling when you already have the perfect one in your arsenal?

Arguing about it just sows seeds of doubt and isn't helpful.

For clarification, as I'm acting as my friend's surrogate because he doesn't particularly like to use this forum anymore, the exact question (or rather questions) asked were "Will Henry reuse Gordon's chassis?" followed up by "Was he chosen because it would be easier to reuse the chassis" You're actually pretty right on the money, but he was careful with his questions for that reason to get the best universal answer.  He may have also asked more to clarify further those are just the exact ones he forwarded to me, among other things.

Answer given by the rep: We chose Henry because he was a popular character, no design work has been looked into yet (to his knowledge). Whether we will reuse the chassis or not will come down to looking at the cgi references to see if they can be. If Gordon's chassis are deemed not accurate enough, they will just make a new one.

Given Toad is a new mold in N scale even though he could have been reused from the graham farish tooling I'm not particularly sure where cheapness and ease falls for N scale. Since his exact reasons outlined were the existing tooling wasn't accurate enough. Now not a one to one example. Him being rolling stock was a cheaper new mold justification then a new mechanism, he's just the only example in N so far. Don't think we'll have an answer regarding Henry until reveal. Personally, betting on chassis reuse though, looking at the CGI ortho sheets they're the exact same after all.

Didn't particularly want this to become an argument. Was just responding to person saying "it will definitely be recycled" to say we shouldn't use that kind of hard statement when we don't know for sure. Not trying to cause an argument or doubt, just trying to keep this place as informative as possible with the info we do have.  Not everyone was at the NMRA show, so figured any clarifications from said show would be helpful.

Not entirely related but that rep was really nice, asked Streak if there were any items he wanted to see unprompted, and that list would be forwarded to the design team. Let him hold the new Hannah sample as well, think the first in hand pictures we got of her came from him. Really shows how much this company respects the fans and their voices.

Bachmann Talyllyn is now officially in stock get ready for tomorrow everyone.

Quote from: DustyMarie53! on November 13, 2024, 10:43:44 PMAgain, never said they wouldn't. The rep that talked with Streak Smeargle said that the chassis sharing did not factor into the announcement of Henry at all, just his popularity. Any potential design reuse or thought would come later when they looked at his cgi design. All I was trying to say is we shouldn't assume it will be reused until we see a sample or get official confirmation, which is what the user above did saying  "considering he's recycling Gordon's chassis without the trailing wheels" which has not been stated. Can't use the HO models as reference either because they're not CGI based. Could be different here for that reason. Personally, I suspect they'll still be reused anyway cause they're the same even in CGI, but let's not assume until any confirmation is given.

I'm sorry but it sounds like your friend isn't asking the right questions.  It too me sounds like they asked "are you making Henry because you have Gordon's Chassis?" And not "will Henry share the same Chassis as Gordon?" Or "will Henry reuse Gordon's Chassis?" I mean what exactly was the question they asked? Because it does sound to me based on what you wrote that was "are you making Henry because you have Gordon's Chassis?"

However based on the CGI Orthos, the history of the model series and how Bachmann made the HO there's 0 reasons why Bachmann won't reuse it again for N Scale for not only a cost effective production but also keeping consistent with the show. Why spend extra money on producing a new chassis tooling when you already have the perfect one in your arsenal?

Arguing about it just sows seeds of doubt and isn't helpful.

Again, never said they wouldn't. The rep that talked with Streak Smeargle said that the chassis sharing did not factor into the announcement of Henry at all, just his popularity. Any potential design reuse or thought would come later when they looked at his cgi design. All I was trying to say is we shouldn't assume it will be reused until we see a sample or get official confirmation, which is what the user above did saying  "considering he's recycling Gordon's chassis without the trailing wheels" which has not been stated. Can't use the HO models as reference either because they're not CGI based. Could be different here for that reason. Personally, I suspect they'll still be reused anyway cause they're the same even in CGI, but let's not assume until any confirmation is given.