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On30 / Re: forney converted to 0-4-4
August 11, 2012, 04:17:24 AM
Tons of Forney conversions over on the Yahoo On30_Kitbashing group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/On30_Kitbashing/
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On30 / Re: It's July 29th/NMRA National Convention - Any New On30 Announcements?
August 05, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
After the YSL project failed, the single Yosemite Short Line boxcar was used for many years as a storage shed in the Sierra RR´s Oakdale yard. I took some photos of it there back in 1984, on my first trip to Calfornia.
Later it was moved to Jamestown for possible restoration. I have seen photos taken there (by Mal Ferrell) which clearly show that it was built on one of the flatcars - part of the original Yosemite Short Line lettering showed on the side sill under the doors. Also, Mal´s photos show that the hinged "shed"doors were a later addition - there were bolt holes after the original sliding door runners.
The Sierra was "sort of" the parent road of the YSL, the YSL tracks connected with the Sierra at Quartz Jct, just south of Jamestown, and the YSL shared some of the financiers with the Sierra, so it would make sense that the boxcar was built in the Sierra shops.
An interesting question is why only 18 ft? Was it just that they needed some cheap and simple cars for construction, or was there something about the survey which mandated short cars which could handle tight curves? The original plan was to carry tourists to the Yosemite Valley, and they were competing with other projects, so they were in a hurry.. The J Hammond Car Co. prepared proposal drawings for a very short passenger coach, which seems to indicate that there was a long term need for equipment which could handle tight radius curves. And this would have interesting consequences for the type of equipment they would have used if the road had survived. The YSL was an indirect victim of the San Fransisco earthquake - there was no physical damage done but investors were spooked and pulled out.
And why 30" gauge? This was in 1905, when most of the early narrow gauge railroads had either folded or been rebuilt to standard gauge, and there would have been lots of cheap second-hand equipment available if they had chosen 3 ft gauge..
Later it was moved to Jamestown for possible restoration. I have seen photos taken there (by Mal Ferrell) which clearly show that it was built on one of the flatcars - part of the original Yosemite Short Line lettering showed on the side sill under the doors. Also, Mal´s photos show that the hinged "shed"doors were a later addition - there were bolt holes after the original sliding door runners.
The Sierra was "sort of" the parent road of the YSL, the YSL tracks connected with the Sierra at Quartz Jct, just south of Jamestown, and the YSL shared some of the financiers with the Sierra, so it would make sense that the boxcar was built in the Sierra shops.
An interesting question is why only 18 ft? Was it just that they needed some cheap and simple cars for construction, or was there something about the survey which mandated short cars which could handle tight curves? The original plan was to carry tourists to the Yosemite Valley, and they were competing with other projects, so they were in a hurry.. The J Hammond Car Co. prepared proposal drawings for a very short passenger coach, which seems to indicate that there was a long term need for equipment which could handle tight radius curves. And this would have interesting consequences for the type of equipment they would have used if the road had survived. The YSL was an indirect victim of the San Fransisco earthquake - there was no physical damage done but investors were spooked and pulled out.
And why 30" gauge? This was in 1905, when most of the early narrow gauge railroads had either folded or been rebuilt to standard gauge, and there would have been lots of cheap second-hand equipment available if they had chosen 3 ft gauge..
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On30 / Re: skidder dimensions
February 28, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
The "skids" modeled on the Bachmann On30 skidder were only temporary, used in shipping the skidder from the factory. For serious use in the forest you would need more substantial skids, with room for a water tank at the rear, and a fairlead up front (unless the "skidder" was in fact a "hoist"..).
Skidders hauled themselves around the forest, by attaching a cable to a strong tree and firing up the winch. However, on a short sled like this, they would stumble on their own toes, so the working skids need to be much longer, especially up front.
Finally, the crew would be very grateful for a roof to keep some of the rain out of their hair..
Skidders hauled themselves around the forest, by attaching a cable to a strong tree and firing up the winch. However, on a short sled like this, they would stumble on their own toes, so the working skids need to be much longer, especially up front.
Finally, the crew would be very grateful for a roof to keep some of the rain out of their hair..
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On30 / Re: Larger On30 Shay
March 05, 2009, 09:45:41 AM
The current Shay is really too small for a logging railroad, so I would love to see a ca 28 ton, three cylinder Shay (like the Santa Barbara Tie&Pole Shay once done by PSC).
What MMI seems to be contemplating is a WSLCo, three-truck Shay, really too big for a 30 inch gauge operation.
A Class A Climax would also be neat, and of course the engineering on the trucks is already done..
I can see that a Heisler would appeal to the collector's market who want "one of everything" to display in a glass case, but for an operating model railroad they have a much more narrow appeal than a proper sized Shay ..
What MMI seems to be contemplating is a WSLCo, three-truck Shay, really too big for a 30 inch gauge operation.
A Class A Climax would also be neat, and of course the engineering on the trucks is already done..
I can see that a Heisler would appeal to the collector's market who want "one of everything" to display in a glass case, but for an operating model railroad they have a much more narrow appeal than a proper sized Shay ..
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On30 / Real 30" gauge prototypes
November 22, 2007, 03:59:38 PM
Received my copy of David Myrick's "Railroads of Nevada and Eastern California" part III today. One chapter is about the 30" gauge Sloat Lumber Co., which operated two steam locomotives which would make excellent models:
- a two cylinder Shay, but a lot more modern looking than the current one, and around 24 tons, a more useful size for real railroad work
- an 18 ton, 0-4-0 side tank Porter, equipped with an auxiliary tender and a very funky air reservoir mounted on top of the side tank. Again a much more useful size than the current little dinky, and lots of room for sound and DCC.
Yes, I know Grandt Line made the 18t Porter, but the conversion to 30" gauge is not easy, and I am not sure it is still available.
Lennart Elg
http://web.telia.com/~u85436044/30inch/sloat.html
- a two cylinder Shay, but a lot more modern looking than the current one, and around 24 tons, a more useful size for real railroad work
- an 18 ton, 0-4-0 side tank Porter, equipped with an auxiliary tender and a very funky air reservoir mounted on top of the side tank. Again a much more useful size than the current little dinky, and lots of room for sound and DCC.
Yes, I know Grandt Line made the 18t Porter, but the conversion to 30" gauge is not easy, and I am not sure it is still available.
Lennart Elg
http://web.telia.com/~u85436044/30inch/sloat.html
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