Square nose F-7 by WBB?Where?

This may not be the right place for this but it does seem to be to me.
I have a friend who was a Lionel repairman for fifty + years.He stopped
repairing locos built after about 2000 because partswere/are generally
available.I don't think this is just a Lionel problem.IMHO it seems to be
a problem for all of the manufacturers/importers.

I understand that a lot of original parts for post war models are still
available and almost everything has had a replica part made by someone.
Personally,if I bought a locomotive that cost $1000.00 + and had a problem
and was told that parts are not available I would be very unhappy.
Even a lower cost product,of which I have many,that did not have support
would disturb me considerably.

Quote from: M1FredQ on March 28, 2012, 10:53:08 AM
Recently my son son wanted me to pick up the new Lionel Nation No.7 In it there
was a reference to a F-3 Santa Fe in Black with the Red Warbonnet. The narrator said
there was never a "real " Black and Red.

Wel, Over Christmas I saw anadd for Williams F-3 in Black/Red and I jumped on it!
It was my FIRST purchase of a Williams locomotive. We were wowed and have
subsequently ordered a number or other Steamer and Diesel locomotives as well as a GG-1.

In the course of our readings we read in other sources that Santa-Fe did not have a Blacl/Red F-3

WELL

The other day while grocery shopping my son comes running over to me with the latest release from
TRAINS magazine. He was all exited to show me that on page 45 of the special release by the TRAINS folks
titled, "TRAIN WREAKS" Special2012-Derailments that changed history, There in living color is a Santa Fe F-3
A and B units derailed and in BLACK  instead of silver!!!!!!!!!!!! The caption refers to the train being a "Chief"!!!!!!!!!
Well that black/red is really nice looking on the layout and runs well with both a passenger set up or freight set up.
Williams is way ahead on this one and I am sooooooo glad they produced it. Now you have your documentation to back
this up!!

Thanks Bachmann/Williams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have read that Lionel did have catalog with pictures that looked like a red and black scheme.This has been dicussed many times.

In reference to the photo in "Train Wrecks" it is probably caused by the angle and the direction of the light.I have seen photos of the same red and silver units in photos taken of the same train at different times or location that do have the dark look.

The blue Hudson should be just fine.It is a large loco and will look,IMHO,great with those cars.

My thanks also.

Joe,

I read it a little too fast and missed one of the links.Sorry.

Quote from: M1FredQ on July 07, 2012, 11:08:37 AM
While we are on the subject.

I recently purchased 2  NW-2 switcher engines different rail lines, My son put both

on the same track and one ran faster than the other.

Since it seems fun to have a double hook up as seen in some photos, does WBB

make non-powered units? Just wondering.
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WBB does not seem to offer the NW-2 in a non powered version.

I have several Williams GP7/9s that all run at so close to the same speed that it is not discernable.
Check to see if the slower one has been changed to series wiring from the original parrallel wiring.
This is discussed on this forum somewhere.

I may be confused on this but wouldn't the "three wires" go to the switch controller?

The type of switch was not stated but if they were O-27 switches they ran from track power unless they had been modified.
The O gauge O22 switches could be powered from track power or from a plug on the side of the swich machine housing with ONE wire to the transformer.

In both cases a three wire controller goes to the switches to change their direction.

There are still many WBB cars that I would buy if I could.
They do seem to add a few names now and then.
It seems to me that when they add something new they elimanate something old.
New products should be at least the same quality of older products.
The new 4-6-0 is IMHO a beautiful loco except for the lack of decent valve gear.
I also hope that WBB will not do strange things with pricing as another small importer has.
I mean small in O gauge.I know that Bachmann and the other I mentined are not small companies in model railroading.

That should be a good choice.

I think the Blue Comet was pulled by a Pacific.But I wouldn't care.I'd use the Hudson.It is a very nice loco.

I do not remember a Williams Blue Comet model.They may have had one in brass but I have never had any info for Williams brass.

This may be a no-no but Lionel has one in their current catalog.

You might also try www.hollashtrains.com.He is in the Tampa,FL. area and has some older Williams models as well as the late stuff.

I agree that various transformers can affect starting speeds but many of us probably do not want to change transformers when we change locos.Amethod that can change the starting voltage would seem to be the only satisfactory solution.The use of TMCC and its components should be one that might work best.It was mentioned above.

I would never have looked in parts for info about the club.

Too bad it is a Plasticville car.I have no use fot that so I will skip the club this year.

Thanks for the info.

I guess since the 2011 Platinum Club is still listed there will not be a 2012 club.

Does anybody know?

Does anybody from Bachmann know?

Does anybody besides me care?

By the time it may be available I probably will not have funds for it.

Well how about that?We all seem to agree.So far.