Pair of switches not working, single switch OK

[alittledog]

Got my son a N scale Bachmann train set with powered switches for Christmas. We are making  simple oval track with the switches inside the loop to have an inner loop. Very, very simple design. The switches work single, but when tied together only one will work. On the back of the switch package, it shows moving a wire for "powering the frog". Do I need to do this, or will I fry out the engine/do something else bad? He is too excited for this train for me to break it the day after Christmas.

In advance, thanks!

Matt

[GoCanes]

I know of another who had that same problem, one switch would work, but not both in a simple oval with passing loop.

  I know he was going to rewire the frog of the one, haven't heard how it worked out.  Interested, as I have the track for a large 3' x 10' layout, which includes about a dozen switches.  Boy I hope I don't have the same problem when I get the track laid out. 

[James in FL]

Hi alittledog,

I am not aware of any Bachmann N turnout with a "wire to move".
Is it perhaps a crossover?
Can you post a picture or simple sketch of the layout showing turnout location on your loops and also terminal track location?

The switches work single, but when tied together only one will work.

Does this mean the black switch box controls or the turnout(s) itself?