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Started by florynow, October 08, 2011, 02:37:59 PM

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florynow

The combine and coach in the Durango and Silverton trainset would be pretty usable for 1900-1950 steam short line modelers like me.  However, I don't want to buy a whole train set just to get the combine.  Will there be any effort to sell these cars separately?  I would hope so, but it brings forth the question as to who Bachmann considers their core customers ...... train set buyers or model railroaders.

PF

the Bach-man

Dear PF,
The D&S old time cars will be available separately.
Have fun!
the Bach-man

Jim Banner

#2
I believe Bachmann Product Code 13501 is what you are looking for.  MSRP $21, street price $12 to $14.  Click on this link for the description:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=3700

Please note that this item is shown here as large scale but all the retailers I checked show it as H0 scale.  The link below is typical.  It is shown for illustrative purposes only as I have never dealt with this seller personally.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Bachmann-HO-13501-Silver-Series-1860-1880-Passen-p/bac-13501.htm




Quote from: florynow on October 08, 2011, 02:37:59 PM
... it brings forth the question as to who Bachmann considers their core customers ...... train set buyers or model railroaders.

PF

The fact that Bachmann is selling this and related items both separately and as part of a set seems to indicate that they are catering to all three:  model railroaders, train set buyers, and model railroaders who buy train sets.

Jim
Growing older is mandatory but growing up is optional.

Johnson Bar Jeff

Quote from: Jim Banner on October 09, 2011, 12:20:41 AM
I believe Bachmann Product Code 13501 is what you are looking for.  MSRP $21, street price $12 to $14.  Click on this link for the description:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=3700

Please note that this item is shown here as large scale but all the retailers I checked show it as H0 scale.  The link below is typical.  It is shown for illustrative purposes only as I have never dealt with this seller personally.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Bachmann-HO-13501-Silver-Series-1860-1880-Passen-p/bac-13501.htm




Quote from: florynow on October 08, 2011, 02:37:59 PM
... it brings forth the question as to who Bachmann considers their core customers ...... train set buyers or model railroaders.

PF

The fact that Bachmann is selling this and related items both separately and as part of a set seems to indicate that they are catering to all three:  model railroaders, train set buyers, and model railroaders who buy train sets.

Jim

Clearly Bachmann needs to cater to as many potential customers as possible. It's a business, after all.

I'm glad to know the cars are--or will be--available separately. I've seen one eBay listing for the coach, and also for a bobber caboose. I might be inclined to add a combine, coach, and caboose to my rolling stock.

Johnson Bar Jeff

Quote from: Johnson Bar Jeff on October 10, 2011, 11:46:11 AM
I'm glad to know the cars are--or will be--available separately. I've seen one eBay listing for the coach, and also for a bobber caboose. I might be inclined to add a combine, coach, and caboose to my rolling stock.

I purchased the Durango & Silverton combine, coach, and caboose through eBay. The combine and coach look very nice behind my 4-6-0.  :)

Jim Banner

Companies come and companies go but moulds go on forever.  Rivarossi made some fine cars and I hope somebody picked up the moulds.

Jim
Growing older is mandatory but growing up is optional.

TwinZephyr

Bachmann has their own tooling for old-time open-platform passenger cars.  The coach and combine are NOT made from Rivarossi molds.

The Bachmann and Rivarossi cars are very similar.  One way to identify them is by the window trim.  Also, Bachmann's newer cars have body mounted couplers whereas Rivarossi's were all truck mounted.

on30gn15

#7
Just remembered finding this a bit ago - a very good scene in which to employ a few open platform passenger cars, after all, it has a number of them in it, http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/det1994001992/PP/
Louisville and Nashville Ry. Sta., Pensacola, Fla. c[between 1900 and 1920]
Large photo absolutely overflowing with period modeling ideas.

And dig the rounded end with curved picture window glass on this observation car http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/det1994017793/PP/ Pere Marquette Railroad parlor car no. 25
When all esle fials, go run trains
Screw the Rivets, I'm building for Atmosphere!
later, Forrest

on30gn15

When all esle fials, go run trains
Screw the Rivets, I'm building for Atmosphere!
later, Forrest

Johnson Bar Jeff

Quote from: TwinZephyr on November 05, 2011, 01:14:13 PM
Bachmann has their own tooling for old-time open-platform passenger cars.  The coach and combine are NOT made from Rivarossi molds.

The Bachmann and Rivarossi cars are very similar.  One way to identify them is by the window trim.  Also, Bachmann's newer cars have body mounted couplers whereas Rivarossi's were all truck mounted.

Exactly! I made exactly that comparison when the cars arrived. The windows on these "new" cars exactly match Bachmann's older cars; I have a combine and two coaches lettered for the Union Pacific, and I compared them to the new cars, too.

If the Rivarossi molds went anywhere, they went to Con-Cor. Some time ago (maybe close to 20 years by now) Con-Cor issued a series of kits painted and lettered for several different roads that were identical to the Rivarossi "duck-billed roof" cars--which were based on the Kimball cars built for the Virginia & Truckee in 1872.