Curious question on the Shays

[mickeykelley]

I've read about Bachmann releasing a 36 AND 38 ton Shay, as well as the 55 ton 3 truck.  I have the 36 and 55, but what exactly was different about the 38.  Even on eBay, I always see 36 but never 38.

[Greg Elmassian]

I have the explanation on my site:
https://elmassian.com/index.php/large-scale-train-main-page/motive-power-mods-aamp-tips/bachmann-motive-power/shay

Basically, all 3 versions were the same, the 3rd version came with metal trucks and was called 38 ton, vs the 36 ton.

Greg

[mickeykelley]

Did the boxes actually say 38?  I never see them n eBay.

[Loco Bill Canelos]

Hi Mickey,

Yes the boxes for the 38 Ton Shay are clearly marked as such and have their own separate product numbers.

36 Ton Shays:

81196   P&CL Co   11   1998   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, Pardee & Curtin   P   1   L   Spectrum   $799.00
81197   None   None   1998   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, unlettered, modern   P   1   L   Spectrum   $799.00
81198   ETL Co   5   1996   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, Ely Thomas   P   1   L   Spectrum   $799.00
81199   None   None   1996   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, unlettered, early   P   1   L   Spectrum   $799.00

81198 was the very first Spectrum large Scale Bachmann Locomotive and was modeled using original drawings for the Lima Shay built for the actual Ely Thomas Lumber CO

38 Ton Shays:

82195   WMRL Co   7   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, W.M.Ritter Lumber Company   P      L   Spectrum   $799.00    coal load
82196   OL Co   106   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, Oregon Lumber Co.   P      L   Spectrum   $799.00    Oil bunker
82197   ETL Co   6   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, Ely-Thomas Lumber Co.   P      L   Spectrum   $799.00    Coal load
82198   None   None   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, unlettered. coal & oil bunker r&w   P      L   Spectrum   $799.00    onion, diamond & straight stack
82199   None   None   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, unlettered. coal & oil bunker black   P      L   Spectrum   $799.00    onion, diamond & straight stack


Here are two on EBAY:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144387322492?itmmeta=01J0GKGJXK73Z2MHD4QG24GNR3&hash=item219e27b27c:g:AssAAOSwXgZh8nZk&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwP6B8Weug3EnUIQinKwrhc9inxjVb%2FA9GgtVvXnKdtVk5EmgvIIBWN0unQ4fX3AzNvsWGUh%2BKRSTNpE34vG6XX49TLuAg5BFmrFN5eCQ0BC8VfgJH6pVWQ6esu6ffmjAh4UjwjGND1Z%2B9N8GPVi4YIiOtHALpnxCaMxY%2BecLy9lj3stv0Sq%2F2t9Q9MkvhrMVBPVhI%2BKzGdYZCe4shHgS1gRaktYFWJdNHQ1hi0rbKqv8IOo10zmT4YyK%2FUltcyy%2FNg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-quwpOEZA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186491220520?itmmeta=01J0GKM5AJ6D6C2TBB3X2EQ2P6&hash=item2b6bbe3228:g:ojkAAOSw0XlmaX~C&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4II11G%2BlUbAQdLKd64YbpqO19xvXD1878iENLTQQzD0FLnb46PK4fuLwmFhkCQCg0wDRvYCnGobKrtpfMsWdbwODaUwpLPnXBBg9qeFb%2BDbfdFEpBmL4K7pZpLQCm4hn1%2FMn%2FBvpxelv0BrVImjEu59CAfjjLzlXCdg76NA2G9Ck91yRrG%2BW7drcWwiAnGCU7zTwhGG0JSfCpP%2FgfIdraJTf%2BxmLTl7pnt3zo8Upg4rKbLpYgJPku3hPBTcqk1hN6dXLq%2BoEres16kevA9GGNoGK5RMWsQaxOTggb2Pfy%2Fi4%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6jV0JOEZA

Hope this clarifies things!  Take Care,

Bill

[Greg Elmassian]

Bill, have you ever found any quick spotting guides to disgusting the 2 or 3?

I've changed to standard gauge prototypes and 1:29, so my Shays are long gone (my wife loved them)

Greg

[mickeykelley]

Both in UK.  But first I've ever see on eBay, at least in my searches.

[mickeykelley]

Boy, my searches are off.  Even when I search Bachmann 82197 or Bachmann 82198, I get no hits.


Edit, changed to world wide and then get them.

[Loco Bill Canelos]

Greg, please clarify your question!

[Greg Elmassian]

Don't you love spell check Bill!!!   

should have been "distinguishing" between versions, not "disgusting"....

Bill, have you ever found any quick spotting guides to distinguishing (between) the 2 or 3 (versions)?

[Loco Bill Canelos]

I have pictures of the shays somewhere, but I rely on the item number, lettering, and the number of screws in the trucks.  81198 and 81199 from 1996 would be considered the first version while 81196 and 81197 would be the second version.  The 821xx would all be the third. 

[Greg Elmassian]

Thanks Bill, added that to my spotting guide:

https://elmassian.com/index.php/large-scale-train-main-page/motive-power-mods-aamp-tips/bachmann-motive-power/shay

Greg

[the Bach-man]

Hey, Greg!
The guy who invented spellcheck died.
The funnel is tomato.
the Bach-man