Since I've always seen a thread about going over what characters bachmann is going to do I thought I'd do one on the announcement with Duncan.

I was really excited that Duncan got announced cause he was the next narrow gauge engine I wanted them to do. I'm still excited.

since I started buying the narrow gauge engines bachmann has done I just totally like them a lot. (I was going to wait till they did all of them than buy them all but I decided to go ahead and I'm glad I did).

whenever he's released I'll be buying him and the gunpowder wagon (really surprised they're doing that one cause ertl was the only one originally who did this wagon). thought some may disagree I don't mind if Duncan is done like he was in the cgi series (I never cared how good looking the characters they brought back I was more excited about the one's they were able to return).

I've also hoped for duke too (just really want all 7 of the narrow gauge engines despite the demand from Mattel).

this maybe a repeat of what I might of typed on other posts I'm just happy that bachmann has reached all 6 of the original narrow gauge engines.

Like Rusty, it's basically a 99.9% chance he'll be the CGI body design that Mattel will provide to Bachmann, and for that it'll be a hard pass for me.

Duncan's design in CGI should've been revised like how his S5 model had to be redone, but unfortunately we're stuck with what we got, and whoever at Mattel approves the product designs probably doesn't understand what the problem with his design is anyway.

I'm not even sure if his chassis would be suitable for a Douglas body, depending on how big the drive wheels are and how spaced out they are on the CGI model compared to Douglas.

All I have to say about Duncan from there is "oh well."

Bachmann is gonna make a cgi Duncan they use those reference photos if they are gonna redesign salty they won't make a model era style  Duncan .

Duncan and the Gunpowder wagon's can now be pre ordered on TrainWorld.

I only hope that Bachmann can find a medium of making Duncan look like his Tallylyn counterpart. I mean at the very least adding the detail of Douglas would be ideal especially if they plan on making more Tallylyn railway counterparts of say Dolgoch, Midlander, etc.

Also I noticed that the likes of Beau, despite having the added buffers on his CGI model, doesn't have it on his HO scale model, which I welcome because the added buffers just looks weird on an engine like him. I hope that it's the case with Duncan since if they want to make real-life counterpart to sell in the future, they'd have to utilize the proportions of Douglas, at least in terms of the detailing and the boiler size, maybe as a middle ground to match both the CGI and real-life counterpart-the best of both worlds I'd say.

Quote from: Luke22 on September 15, 2024, 12:42:25 PMI only hope that Bachmann can find a medium of making Duncan look like his Tallylyn counterpart.

The Tallylyn railway have worked on all the SK with Bachmann so no doubt the Tallylyn will have a huge say with Duncan like with the others.

Unfortunately Duncan has been cancelled, absolutely heart breaking to hear this.

That just sucks!!

Not gonna lie, after hearing the explanation I totally understand and respect the decision to cancel it. Costs were too high, there were too many people to please, and the real life factor just wasn't gonna be there. It's disappointing, but not the end of the world.

I'm very much in shock, knowing the rumors were true. Bachmann went through with Duncan's cancellation because he was going to be based on his CGI render, which wasn't well-received, and it strayed too much away from his real life basis, Douglas.

But that doesn't mean Duncan will never be made. Large Scale Diesel was a previously cancelled product that eventually saw light of day. We can only hope the same can happen for Duncan. If Duncan gets reconsidered one day, we can hope they'll actually base him off of Douglas with measurements. Seeing that he was going to be made based on his infamous CGI render, it was better the tooling wasn't invested in that.

I'm upset but I understand why he was cancelled, I reckon like some people have said this will be a G Scale Diesel situation where as he gets cancelled but later gets made (we will probably have to wait a few more years for that to happen) also it's Duncan he's easily the most popular NG character next to Skarloey if it was just some nobody i'd say yeh there dead but the fact the fandom was spilt over Duncan shows how popular Duncan is.

In short, Duncan's CGI render was so bad, it's what got his Bachmann model cancelled.

Well I'm disappointed. I was really excited for duncan to come after sir handel. but now I'm extremely disappointed. (I've been trying to coupe after I got hit by Helen). and now that duncan is canceled just is more disappointed. (hope he'll come to the line soon).

Duncan was going to be made based on his CGI render, and the pricing was apparently an issue for them. Given how badly received his CGI render was since its inception a decade ago, Douglas would not be accurate using that tooling, and there are no other characters that would use Duncan's tooling either, Bachmann decided that tooling wasn't worth the investment, so they had to can this product. They announced Duncan last year, and just over one year later, they came out with this unfortunate news.

Again, they didn't say Duncan will never be made. He should get reconsidered at some point, considering he is a fan favorite among many, and Narrow Gauge wouldn't be complete without him. We may have to wait at least a few years before Bachmann eventually decides to revisit Duncan. After all, Large Scale Diesel was cancelled, but eventually saw light of day. They can do the same for Duncan.

At least Bachmann could make Smudger using Rheneas' tooling, and Proteus using Sir Handel's tooling, if Mattel can make exceptions for the CGI mandate. Duncan's tooling, on the other hand, would not be usable for other characters, nor his basis, which is the problem.

Had Duncan been made based on his CGI render, which was heavily disliked, the model wouldn't sell very well, so Bachmann was concerned about that.

I'm disappointed that Duncan has been cancelled. For me I aways felt Duncan was project thar wouldn't please everyone even if there was no CGI model mandate and they based him off his TV series model they'd struggle to have that balance of being able to reuse the models for Talyllyn railway models.
However I hope Duncan is a project they can circle back too. I feel some on social media will no doubt be rehashing their "fan art" which is more annoying then helpful. I personally want a model that represents the show (even CGI). Unfortunately Douglas and TV Duncan aren't accurate to each other so that was never gonna happen.
As for the future I feel it's a wait and see game for now. I agree Luke is probably the safest bet. Characters like Duke, Mighty Mac, Freddie, even Smudger being model series exclusives sort of makes their models seem more difficult for Bachmann to make, Luke, Victor and Millie while being CGI Characters I don't know how much of a market their is for their model in real world 009 modelling. Time will tell. We still Sir Handel and the wagons coming.