OK, Thanks, didn't know that. You folks on hear sure have a wealth of knowledge, thanks for sharing. Mike

Hi Joe,  The first thing I looked for on the EP 5 was an " F " on the outside of the shell. Finding nothing, I looked for a marking on the frame, inside and outside, nothing. I made the decision to go with " front " being the direction the speaker was pointing. Anyhow, things worked out fine.  Mike

Hi everyone !!  I'm Mike, and new to this board. I've been a collector of Lionel trains for years, but I'm new to Williams. I have a demo Shark nose A A and a Virginian EP 5. I really like the Williams engines, but not happy with the way they run ( speed control ). Not until I read a message entitled "Great Finds While in Florida", where Joe Satnik talked about moving the blue and yellow wires (blue front-yellow rear) from parallel to series, for better slower control. I first did this to the sharks, and what a big difference it makes. It gives a more realistic look to the speed of the train, and it even makes the head lights brighter. Next I did it to the EP 5. The thing with an EP 5 is it has two cabs. So where is the front motor ? The directions say blue from the front motor, and yellow from the rear motor. Oh well, no big deal. I did it both ways, and the engine ran the same with the connections either way. So now both engines run better. Sorry for the long post !!  Lots of interesting reading on here !!  Thanks,  Mike