Thank's for the info everyone :0),I ordered both of them :0).....and Ray your absolutely right,LOL,without my reading glasses my N scale trains are a blur,LOL

,John

Hey all i'm new to HO scale,I've been doing N scale for the past 15 years or so,but I wanted to do something as a side project in HO,I was looking at a GP-40 & GP-30 by Backmann,are they a pretty good running engine???

Thank's,John