Ive been trying to find a bottle of paint that matches the Bachmann HO scale Cass Scenic excursion car color and haven't had much luck.

Im guessing it must be a color exclusively that only Bachmann makes? Or is there a way I can find the paint? Ive been able to come close, but still doesn't quite work.

Picture for reference:

Quote from: J3a-614 on May 03, 2013, 09:04:53 PM
For reference, here is that "Mallets in the Tall Timber" page:

http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/

There are several neat features on it, including a logging Mallet roster with illustrations of about every logging Mallet built (some with dimensions), comments on painting of stock Baldwin locomotives (surprise--the stock Baldwin paint job was an olive green, not black), a link to a photo roster of export locomotives (and some of those are interesting, including 2-8-8-2Ts, 4-8-2s, 4-8-4s. and even a 2-8-8-4, all on narrow gauge), and a dissertation on logging Mallet models, including the Mantua 2-6-6-2 and 2-6-6-2T.

The export locomotive link:

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/

The model page:

http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/models/modelmallets.htm

From the commentary on these Mantua engines:

"Starting in the early 1980s, Mantua Metal Products began producing an HO scale 2-6-6-2 that they dubbed the "articulated logger."  Since then, many of these articulateds have been sold in a variety of road names and in kit form, making it probably the most common logging Mallet related item produced.  The model itself is based on the narrow gauge Uintah #50.  Mantua solved the gauge problem by scaling up the locomotive to standard gauge proportions.  While this makes what should be a small tank engine into a behemoth comparable to Sierra #38, the result is still quite presentable.  The models look right at home on a logging layout, and they run better (and cost a lot less) than any of the brass logging Mallets."

Oh, there were some simple logging Mallets, but the only roads to use them were the  Uintah (50 and 51, later Sumpter Valley 250 and 251, both narrow gauge) and Weyerhauser (105, 106, 107, and 111, all standard gauge).  These engines were rare compared to the much more common compounds with their cylinders of different sizes, and apparently Weyerhauser even decide to return to compound engines after the last of the simples were built in 1930.

A simple 2-6-6-2T that was proposed for Simpson Logging Co. in 1927 but never built looks a lot like the Mantua model, and perhaps it should; notes with the proposal say it was, like the Mantua model, based on the Uintah's engines.

It's interesting to note that all of the simple 2-6-6-2s were built as tank engines, although some were modified as tender engines later.

Weyerhauser also had the only 2-8-8-2s (200 and 201) built for logging service in North America; both were tender engines, and both were compounds.

Have fun.  

Thank you!! Im glad at least someone is paying attention to my posts and not acting like a typical politician having the information I provide go in one ear and out the other.

I repeat:

"Mantua looks very toy-ish and has no real model detail. They also look absolutely NOTHING like the compound mallet that Clover Valley #4 is; as well as the G scale model Bachmann built".

I haven't seen too many simple-expansion logging mallets, have you? Bachmann got it right with their G scale model. Now unless you all want to go buy a $900 dollar brass compound mallet, I think it would be wise if Bachmann came out with an HO scale version of their G scale model.

Mantua aka Model Power's 2-6-6-2's aren't even real locomotives. They based them off of COMPOUND articulated engines. Lets take Weyerhauser Timber Company's 2-6-6-2T for an example. Well that was a Compound-expansion engine. Mantua made it into a simple-expansion locomotive. And no, it would be impossible to kit-bash them into what they are suppose to look like. Sumpter Valley and Unitah's 2-6-6-2 was a real locomotives.....however it was only Narrow Gauge. Oops!

As for railroads that used Standard Gauge Compound 2-6-6-2T's?

1. Rayonier Inc.
2. Clover Valley Lumber Co.
3. Weyerhauser Timber Co.
4. White River Lumber Co.
5. Potlatch Lumber Co.
6. Saginaw Lumber Co.
7. Feather River Lumber Co.

Want more?  http://www.steamlocomotive.com/2-6-6-2/

Quote from: Doneldon on May 01, 2013, 02:48:07 AM


Mantua has sold both tank and tender 2-6-6-2 loggers since I was a kid (and that was so long ago that I'm a kid again). They, well, it, really, since they use the same mechanism, are solidly built and very reliable. That's not a surprise after so many years of manufacture. However, it would be very risky for Bachmann or any other moderately priced line to bring out a competitor for the Mantua locos.
                                                                                         -- D

"Solidly built and very reliable".  You're joking right? Mantua's have NOT had a very good reputation. Nor do they even have decent detail. They look very toy-ish. They also look absolutely NOTHING like the compound mallet that Clover Valley #4 is; as well as the G scale model Bachmann built. If Bachmann or any other company built an HO 2-6-6-2T, there wouldn't be any competition or risk at all. Mantua would loose that battle. Hands down!

The Bach-man, would you be so kind to please pass on the request to have an HO scale version of the 2-6-6-2T that you guys have made in G scale? Due to Clover Valley #4 now running once again at Niles Canyon, I would love to own an HO scale model of it :-)

And before Mantua's model is mentioned; they're not even close.

Can you show how? Would still be nice to see an OnBoard version though.

I would really love to see Bachmann make an HO scale DCC OnBoard version of the American Jupiter. Would you guys be able to add this request to your locomotive ideas?

Also, in light of Clover Valley #4 restored to operational condition, does Bachmann have any plans on making an HO scale version of their 2-6-6-2T?

Any plans on Bachmann Spectrum making more runs of F40PH's?

Have a new idea for Bachmann Spectrum line. What about a P-8 Pacific?  Like the famous running SP 2472?

Quote from: florynow on March 04, 2012, 12:22:46 PM
I have a sound/DCC 2-8-0 that has been noticeably weakening in its pulling power.  In earlier discussion, readers here thought that the drive belt may be split or stretching.

Last week I took it to the club and ran a test between it and an identical 2-8-0 known to still be good.  On the grade with 12 cars, the good engine slipped its drivers while the failing engine sat with drivers motionless while the chuff went wild.

Any ideas?

Does running the engine on lowered track voltage damage the motor or the decoder?  

PF

If you turn off the sound, does it sound like something is moving inside the engine still? If so, that means that the motor shaft is spinning freely and not getting a connection to the wheels. It could be a gear failure of a worm drive issue. If thats not the case, try resetting the decoder back to default values. If nothing else seems to work, try setting CV2 to 1 or 2. Thats the starting voltage. Make sure CV5 is set at 255.

As for the track voltage, how much are you using? Should be around 13.5 or 14. If there isnt enough, that may be the problem of why its not moving. It wont damage it, but it wont move unless you got enough track voltage

Quote from: florynow on February 24, 2012, 05:36:52 PM
I've looked in my book "MoPac Power" by Joe Collias and there are a few heavily weathered steam engines but they are very, very rare and then very late in the steam era.  

I'm not weathering my engines.  Might dull-coat them a little but that's all.  The Mopac took pretty good care of their engines and what's good for the MOP is good enough for me.

PF

To each their own. I think he did an excellent job. And FYI, there were tons of heavily weathered steam engines. SP, B&O, N&W were notorious for not cleaning their engines. I went on google images and typed in B&O EM-1 and found tons that were very dirty. Unless pulling passenger service, most of the freight steam engines I've seen were covered with filth.



But ya know...all steam engines were clean at one point or another; like just out of the factory. So either weathered or not are both considered "accurate".

Due to Athearn selling so well with all these rare diesels, does Bachmann plan to put some of those too? Like SDP45's or Krauss Maffie's maybe?

Still cant get SDP45's in plastic. Has never been done yet. Only in brass :/

Quote from: florynow on February 19, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
accurate models float my boat.

PF

Quote from: GN.2-6-8-0 on February 19, 2012, 05:10:30 PM
And finally I finished my EM-1 

That looks really nice man 

The 2-6-6-2 I was referring to was Bachmann's G scale 2-6-6-2T, and how it would be great if they made an HO version of that.