Got a call from Service dept
Turns out they want to service the engines themselves
. The repair person who called said he will handle it personally.
He said they want to study what had happened. So I will get it in
the mail sometime this week and keep you all informed of the progress
and eventual results of the repairs!!!!!!!

Thanks everyone for all the help

Cobra Bob

Brunswick Green with 5 stripes or Tuscan Red on those PRR's!!!!!!!!!!!
I would buy those at first release!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Fellas

I am having a similar problem with my Williams Santa Fe F-3 Black and Red.
You can barely hear the rail sounds. Any advice on the F units?

Have been reading up on the Pere Marquette Line which used to run
in our area.
Has Williams considered doing a Berkshire  in P. M. ?

I wanted to throw my 2 cents in for a Union Pacific  F-3 units!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My son and I have been accumulating U.P. units and we are missing F-3 type.
Would also love to see an Atlantic Coast Line. Just love that Purple color!!!!

I can't seem to download or access the catalog
Are there any new F-3's being offered or GP-9's??
Does Williams produce "powered" B-units???

Thank You
Today happens to be a very sunny day I'll put the boxes in the sun-room.
Fortunately there is no mold smell.
It is really fun watching all this stuff come "alive" again after all these years.
I am grateful my son kept bugging me to pull them out and run them

Where are you finding the new 2012 catalog?

If they are not listing items for 2012 that means they are pulling them and letting the current stock of what's out there dry.
To me that means I better pick up what I can now before they are gone.

After each application I wiped the Break Free Collectors oil off.
It has been over a couple of weeks and no change to the plastic except it
looks like new with a nice sheen to it. The moving parts -gears and wheels run very quiet and smooth.
I will not use the Break Free Cleaner on the plastic with any lettering as it might react with it.
But the Break Free Collector is a preservative oil. The railcars really look good.
That Hudson looks really good compared to when I took it out of the box.

Now I need to know how to clean the mold off the Lionel boxes. Someone told me the original boxes have collector value.

Since pulling out my Dad's collection in storage for the last 25 years. I found a mold growing on the rolling stock, boxes, and even the 4-6-4 Hudson. There was also a "whitish corrosion on the metal parts.

I went to work to remove the mold by using a moist very soft tooth brush and paint brush with a slight amount of Dawn Dish washing liquid. It cut through the mold nicely!!
I dried everything off best I could even using Q-tips for the hard to reach spots.
To lubricate the metal parts and remove corrosion I used a product I have been using for years to clean up old military surplus rifles. It's called "Break Free".
I have found this to be an outstanding product. I have brought back to life many an old rifle, I also use it on my bicycle chain, gear shifting mechanisms,etc with great success. When I ride my bike it is nearly quiet. So I took a chance and used it to clean and lubricate my Dad's 1951 Hudson train set and rolling stock he collected over the years. The corrosion and remainder of the mold came off. It seemed to nourish the plastic and die-csat metal of the Engine. After 3 or 4 applications and cleanings it left a nice sheen to the metal and plastic and wheel assemblies. I ran the engine a few times cleaned the gears with the Break free a few times and lubed the gears with Break-Free Collectors oil. That '51 Hudson ran really well almost quite. When I hooked up 5 of those K-Line die-cast metal heavy Hopper cars it pulled those and a caboose with no problem!!!!!!! The Plastic on the boxcars, hoppers, tank cars and cabooses look really nice now!
Has anyone had similar experiences or what is your program for dealing with trains in long term storage.
Keep in mind this stuff was kept in a basement of an old house built in 1859 in the Chicagoland area, the basement had flooded a couple times, windows kept open in the Summer months.

To All helpers:

Had a Bachmann Tech call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow what sevice!!!
He mentioned some circuit board is buned out or malfunctioned and they would replace it. Since they are 8+ weeks in turning repairs over I offered to do it myself. He will send the part after I fax a copy of my receipt. I have NEVER disassembled any of my trains before but thought it would be a good learning session for me and my 8 year old son. He said i could call and he would walk me through it if I have a problem or get stuck. I am impressed with the personal attention of this company I do plan to buy more from them.

Any feedback on their GP-9's??? They look very nice

Thanks lee
I will try what you said.
I will be gone a few days won't be back on line till Saturday.
Will post results of my efforts.

Thanks

671 we seem to have similar tastes as one of the F-3's we have is a B&O and what an impressive site it is on the track!!!!!!!!
I did want a Wabash but Trainworld was sol out!!!!

Thanks everyone!!
I finally was able to make contact with someone in repairs at Bachmann/Williams.
They want me to send in a copy of receipt and they will send me a new circuit to install.
He said it is easy to do and he would walk me through it if I need the help.
I volunteered to do it myself as he said there is a 8 week wait to have repairs done.
not to mention I didn't want to spend the extra bucks in postage to ship the engines . They are pretty hefty.
I agree when I saw those Black and Red F-3's on a Lionel Nation video. My son and I thought they were really impressive. Later when we saw they were available from Williams we jumped on it.
The S-4 was something my son had been talking about. So we took the plunge with that item too.
When I receive the parts I will post it and probably as k for help disassembling the
engines as I have not done this before. On U-tube there is a fella who bought the C&O from Williams and installed a "Wig Wag" for his F-3. He also replaced the headlite with a LCD and it looks a lot more realistic than the dull lite on those F-3's that come with sets.
Take care everyone Thanks again

I hooked up the ZW and still nothing