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Title: Ethanol train question
Post by: jettrainfan on December 30, 2009, 02:01:46 PM
Well, im probably gonna find out this was simple but I'll give it a go.

How come on ethanol trains they have a freight car between the locos and another at the end? Its been on my head so i just figure I'd ask.

thanks!
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: ebtbob on December 30, 2009, 02:50:13 PM
As far as I know,  the two cars,  usually boxcars,  carry supplies to deal with any kind of spill in the case of derailments.
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: Mike on December 30, 2009, 03:13:23 PM
How about rules for hazardous material cars...buffer car(s) required for safety. Check the hazmat rules.
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: jward on December 30, 2009, 03:42:37 PM
he is correct, the idler cars are buffers in case of incident. the one on the rear is for a buffer when the train needs helpers on the rear.

why the buffer cars? well, last night i heard the dispatcher refer to it as the "kaboom " train.....
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: RAM on December 30, 2009, 04:13:31 PM
Its for safety.  ethanol trains are not the only things that need a buffer between the car and the locomotive.   I do not know if they need to be an empty car or not.  Some one may have a list of products that require a buffer.
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: BestSnowman on December 30, 2009, 07:05:31 PM
There is an ethanol plant on the way to my parents and I always see a couple boxcars sitting amongst the hoppers and tank cars on sidings and I always wondered why but never saw them assembled into a moving train.
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: jettrainfan on December 30, 2009, 08:02:38 PM
OK, thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: glennk28 on December 30, 2009, 08:42:20 PM
If I can recall my HazMat training from 20 years ago--I think one particular problem with Ethanol is that in daylight you cannot see the flame if it catches fire.  gj
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: BestSnowman on December 30, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
Quote from: glennk28 on December 30, 2009, 08:42:20 PM
If I can recall my HazMat training from 20 years ago--I think one particular problem with Ethanol is that in daylight you cannot see the flame if it catches fire.  gj

That sounds right to me as well.
Title: Re: Ethanol train question
Post by: NarrowMinded on December 30, 2009, 11:01:37 PM
A few years ago I heard they were going to add something in ethanol so you could see it burn during the day for safety.

NM