Help Needed

[the Bach-man]

Dear All,
Can anyone direct me to a picture or lettering diagram of a Southern 40' box car with the "Look Ahead- Look South" slogan? I'm doing the artwor sheets for our new HO cars, and can't find one.
Thanks!
the Bach-man

[pdlethbridge]

After looking for a while, it occured to me that your best bet would be to talk with the people at Norfolk Southern. This might help overcome any potential legal problems with copyright and they may have pictures or artwork to provide.

[SteamGene]

On the positive side for NS, they are not playing the copyright game, so that is not a concern. 
Gene

[Nathan]

You might contact the NMRA Library, they have a number of photo colections that have been donated to them.

Nathan

[Rich R]

Try this .

http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/freight/box/box.html

Not sure it's exactly what you want but it's a start at least.

Cheers,
Rich R

[jayl1]

Also try www.rr-fallenflags.org.  There are many roads listed.

[VirginiaCentral]

Hi there Mr. Bachmann.  I have tried several sites and so far I have not found any pictures of freight cars with the "Look Ahead Look South" herald.  The only pics I could find are of diesel engine nose heralds. Look at  http://www.srha.net/public/photos/photo_detail.asp?ID=66715

This is a picture from the Southern Railway Historical Association.  They might can answer your question.  Their web site is: http://www.srha.net/default.asp

Also, there is a forum, the Boxcars & Freight Cars of Noth America site, for posting pictures of freight cars at http://www.nonotuck.us/kens/boxcars/index.html#Web_Pages_Details
but I did not find any "Look Ahead Look South" heralds there either.

Good luck with your search. 
Jerry

[SteamGene]

I looked through my copy of THE SOUTHERN RAILWAY HANDBOOK and could find no picture of a boxcar with that slogan.
Sorry.
Gene

[jesse]

I don't have a photo of the box car, but my late Son-in-law worked for Southern.  He sent me this photo of the Southern Logo several years ago. I have no idea where the patch is now, but you are welcome to this if you can use it.

Jesse

[Matt Bumgarner]

Mr. B-

I am the editor of the Southern Railway Historical Association's member newsletter. The SRHA has the SR archives and we can probably provide copies of exactly what you need. Please email me off-list with your needs and preferences (JPG, TIF, PDF) and I will make sure we get you the correct information.

Thanks,

Matt Bumgarner

[the Bach-man]

Thanks, All,!
Matt, I'll certainly contact you, but your email is hidden. I've finished artwork sheets for a Southern 40' box, but what we had hoped for was one with the slogan either in the herald or on the opposite side of the door.
Thanks!
the Bach-man

[Matt Bumgarner]

Mr B-

email me at [email protected]

Thanks,

Matt Bumgarner

[VirginiaCentral]

Hey there again Mr. Bachman. The guys at the Southern Railway forum on Yahoo have made a couple of suggestions for Southern Rwy models.

DPayne suggests using "The "SERVES THE SOUTH" slogan that appeared in the mid- to late- sixties until "GIVES A GREEN LIGHT TO INNOVATION" began appearing in the seventies would be a good choice. Seems almost every manufacturer has done the circular herald and similarly the GREEN LIGHT slogan, but the middle ground has been overlooked."

And Frank Greene adds the following information.  "The circular boxcar herald never said "Look Ahead - Look South".  It said "The Southern Serves the South" around the ring with "SR" in the center. The earliest version (mid-1930's, I think) had the words almost running together ("The Southern" was always on the top half), while the later version (early 1940's, I think) separated "The Southern" from "Serves the South" <http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/sout/sou260909amh.jpg>. During the 1960's - 1970's block lettering era, slogans included "Serves the South" or "Super Cushioned Service" to the right of boxcar doors and "Gives a Green Light to innovation" on the left below "Southern".

Jerry

[the Bach-man]

Thanks to everyone-
Matt did confirm that the "Look Ahead" slogan did not appear on a boxcar, and has thus solved my problem (and explained as well why I can't find a picture!).
The car will have the "Serves the South" herald.
Thanks again!
the Bach-man