slow running

[hindmarch]

Hi Mr B,i purchased a 3 truck shay in analog and it runs very slow whatever speed you try to set , i intend to convert to dcc as  i have all dcc,i dont want to convert if this is not normal with this loco,i have oiled the wheels and drive train but the slow running still exists.Regards Bryan

[Paul W.]

Hi Bryan,
Have you ever owned a Shay before? The reason I ask is because Shays are geared locomotives, and even the real ones were slow. Bachmann has built them this way. If this is not your first Shay, then more info or sending it back may be in order, but if it IS your first Shay and you are used to rod engines, your Shay is doing what it's supposed to.

[GN.2-6-8-0]

Shays are logging locomotives geared to run extremly slow (10 to 15 mph)but will handle grades and trackage the conventional rod locomotives could not.

[hindmarch]

HI GN&Paul Thanks for the info,it is the first Shay i have owned ,like you say i am used to rod locos,what do i have to watch with the settings when i convert to dcc,it pulls quit good with a mix of passinger and freight cars,again thanks.Regards Bryan

[SteamGene]

The funny thing about geared locos is that if you stand close to one moving with closed eyes, you start to brace yourself for the suction as it flies by at 900 MPH from the sound of it.  Then you open your eyes after a minute an it's moved five feet. 
Gene

Who spots the misplaced modifier?  (I decided to leave it in. )

[Conrail Quality]

Gene,

The misplaced modifier is in the first sentence. Oh, and you also missused the word 'an' in the second sentence; you should have used 'and'.

Timothy the Grammar Critic

As for Shays, I'm afraid I have nothing to add . I don't think there was ever any electric equivelent of a Shay (what kind of logging railroad could afford catenary?).

[Loco Bill Canelos]

Actually the Portland Traction Company was in the loggong business.  They used Electric traction to haul log to the mill near Portland Oregon.  After they reached the steeper grades  in the higher country, they did use six shays.   I am told that the shays pulled the log cars to the end of caternary and the steeple cabs took over from there.  It was all standard guage.

Seems there is a prototype for everything!!

[SteamGene]

Tim,
You're correct about the first; the second was a typo.
Gene

[r0bert]

bill, it's sunny and seventy plus outside today, shouldn't you be outside running trains, after all it's going to snow tomorrow!!! []

[Yampa Bob]

We normally use it to support a subordinate clause "I think...(that)...it is hot".

In Spanish it is never omitted.   

"The book (that ) you read",  "I bought the shoes (that ) she wanted."

Bob

[SteamGene]

Bob,
That's relative PRONOUN.  The dependent clause may act as an adjective. 
Gene

[Yampa Bob]

You are correct and I changed it.  The point was that we often omit it for brevity.

Bob

[NWsteam]

I love my Bachmann shay.  It is one of the best purchases I have ever made.  I just wish Bachmann would make an HO hiesler or a two truck shay.  Congrats on your new loco.

-Brad

[hindmarch]

hi all,thanks for all the interest but can someone please answer my question about settings when converting to dcc.Regards Bryan

[Yampa Bob]

Bryan:
Yeah, we tend to ramble at times. I don't think you have to change any settings. If it runs slow now, it will run slow on DCC, which seems to be prototypical for the Shay.
Sometimes we have to sorta hang around until the right "expert" comes in.

It might help to know what controller you are using.  If using EZ Command you can't change anything.  Since you mentioned making changes, we can assume you have a more full featured controller.  It's ok to mention other brands on the forum.

Bob