Future suggestions/predictions thread

Started by Chaz, July 15, 2021, 11:01:36 PM

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Awesometrain77

So we finally have 2 out of the three narrow gauge wagon toolings shown off . Both of which have a painted samples what could be next for narrow gauge rolling stock
The 4 plank wagons  or the flatbeds seem like good choices for a new tool but maybe it's a bit too soon for that

What repaints can they do
The red coach is something highly requested by fans and I think it would a be great seller

Brown box and brake vans have also been requested a ton and I do think they would also be good sellers

As for slate wagons
A white varient is missing so they could possibly do that and maybe around the same time as they are doing cycling out some of them maybe replace the loads in the brown and red ones with BMQ blue slate loads
I also think we need troublesome slate wagons
Now Bachmann has been doing cgi trucks as of late but a product motorized Troublsome tanker that only came out after Bachmann made there African oil tanker features a tanker with a classic face so I think this could be viable

I think 2 different Troublsome slate wagons should happen
Shocked and happy

I think they could reuse on these faces for a Sodor tanker if they want to .

Anyway, those are my narrow gauge wagon, predictions. I don't know if any of these would happen this year, but those are them.

JLK2707


Cheeky_ULP

Quote from: JLK2707 on February 14, 2025, 03:47:30 PMHow about a model series slate car?
While it would be novel, I can see it being considered redundant in terms of what the range offers. They get more mileage out of the current slate wagons by being able to sell them as non-Thomas products.

Awesometrain77

The model series slate trucks known on the wiki as the skalroey slate trucks are nice and actually appear in CGI however they are really redundant as they have a very similar model to it already that is closer to the real life slate trucks from the TR .

I do think adding on faces to the existing slate trucks is the most likely way we could get trouble some slate wagons .

Mulfred100

Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on February 14, 2025, 05:10:14 PM
Quote from: JLK2707 on February 14, 2025, 03:47:30 PMHow about a model series slate car?
While it would be novel, I can see it being considered redundant in terms of what the range offers. They get more mileage out of the current slate wagons by being able to sell them as non-Thomas products.
Not necessarily. If they market it as a Troublesome slate truck 1 (and 2 if possible) first then I see no reason why a newly tooled model series styled slate truck wouldn't benefit the range. The already existing tooling can still be produced and sold as they are. If they introduced a model series style slate truck with a face us Classic series fans would buy in bulk, 5-10 at a time, even with only one or two faces. Plus it's easier to market a Troublesome Truck then a regular wagon. It adds something newly tooled to the range, something Classic series styled and has that marketable factor of having a NG piece of rolling stock with a face. Something I think we all agree would benefit the range. Adding a face to existing slate trucks wouldn't work as the face would be way too small, due to the real life Basis. I see only benefits.
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Cheeky_ULP

Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on February 14, 2025, 05:10:14 PM
Quote from: JLK2707 on February 14, 2025, 03:47:30 PMHow about a model series slate car?
While it would be novel, I can see it being considered redundant in terms of what the range offers. They get more mileage out of the current slate wagons by being able to sell them as non-Thomas products.
Not necessarily. If they market it as a Troublesome slate truck 1 (and 2 if possible) first then I see no reason why a newly tooled model series styled slate truck wouldn't benefit the range. The already existing tooling can still be produced and sold as they are. If they introduced a model series style slate truck with a face us Classic series fans would buy in bulk, 5-10 at a time, even with only one or two faces. Plus it's easier to market a Troublesome Truck then a regular wagon. It adds something newly tooled to the range, something Classic series styled and has that marketable factor of having a NG piece of rolling stock with a face. Something I think we all agree would benefit the range. Adding a face to existing slate trucks wouldn't work as the face would be way too small, due to the real life Basis. I see only benefits.
Narrow gauge troublesome trucks haven't appeared in CGI, so I would be surprised if Bachmann went that far. Even then, there's other wagons that are better-suited to have a face on their side than the slate trucks are, which in the model era were fitted a bit clumsily.

Mulfred100

#831
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on February 15, 2025, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on February 14, 2025, 05:10:14 PM
Quote from: JLK2707 on February 14, 2025, 03:47:30 PMHow about a model series slate car?
While it would be novel, I can see it being considered redundant in terms of what the range offers. They get more mileage out of the current slate wagons by being able to sell them as non-Thomas products.
Not necessarily. If they market it as a Troublesome slate truck 1 (and 2 if possible) first then I see no reason why a newly tooled model series styled slate truck wouldn't benefit the range. The already existing tooling can still be produced and sold as they are. If they introduced a model series style slate truck with a face us Classic series fans would buy in bulk, 5-10 at a time, even with only one or two faces. Plus it's easier to market a Troublesome Truck then a regular wagon. It adds something newly tooled to the range, something Classic series styled and has that marketable factor of having a NG piece of rolling stock with a face. Something I think we all agree would benefit the range. Adding a face to existing slate trucks wouldn't work as the face would be way too small, due to the real life Basis. I see only benefits.
Narrow gauge troublesome trucks haven't appeared in CGI, so I would be surprised if Bachmann went that far. Even then, there's other wagons that are better-suited to have a face on their side than the slate trucks are, which in the model era were fitted a bit clumsily.
Neither were the blue coaches, D-fusit, blue brake-van, box vans. Didn't stop Bachmann making them... in terms of rolling stock with a face. Well there's non in CGI and no current tooling out there that would have a face, so regardless it's gonna be newly tooled... it's just the fact it doesn't appeal to YOU. You haven't argued people wouldn't buy it. I know I'd prefer a Troublesome slate truck that was model series styled. I'd buy a rake of them. Many other modellers would too.

If Bachmann made a newly tooled model series style slate truck with a face and marketed it as Troublesome slate truck 1, it would sell and it would sell well, just as much as Red oxide slate wagons, or brown, or tan or anything with a number.
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Cheeky_ULP

Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 02:48:36 PMNeither were the blue coaches, D-fusit, blue brake-van, box vans. Didn't stop Bachmann making them... in terms of rolling stock with a face. Well there's non in CGI and no current tooling out there that would have a face, so regardless it's gonna be newly tooled... it's just the fact it doesn't appeal to YOU. You haven't argued people wouldn't buy it. I know I'd prefer a Troublesome slate truck that was model series styled. I'd buy a rake of them. Many other modellers would too.
I feel the main difference is all of those had photo references Bachmann has received over the years. The narrow gauge troublesome trucks never had any sort of reference material taken in any era of the show, so they'd only have photos from the show itself to go by. All they would need is to use a narrow gauge wagon that has a flat, solid surface for one of its sides.

Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 02:48:36 PMit's just the fact it doesn't appeal to YOU. You haven't argued people wouldn't buy it. I know I'd prefer a Troublesome slate truck that was model series styled. I'd buy a rake of them. Many other modellers would too.
I don't really appreciate you making up assumptions about my stance in the discussion that not only have I made no indication is my opinion, but that you boldly state them as though they were. This was a very aggressive, out of left-field accusation to make, and I don't wish to continue discussing this topic with you if this is how you are going to approach peoples responses.

Mulfred100

#833
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on February 15, 2025, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 02:48:36 PMNeither were the blue coaches, D-fusit, blue brake-van, box vans. Didn't stop Bachmann making them... in terms of rolling stock with a face. Well there's non in CGI and no current tooling out there that would have a face, so regardless it's gonna be newly tooled... it's just the fact it doesn't appeal to YOU. You haven't argued people wouldn't buy it. I know I'd prefer a Troublesome slate truck that was model series styled. I'd buy a rake of them. Many other modellers would too.
I feel the main difference is all of those had photo references Bachmann has received over the years. The narrow gauge troublesome trucks never had any sort of reference material taken in any era of the show, so they'd only have photos from the show itself to go by. All they would need is to use a narrow gauge wagon that has a flat, solid surface for one of its sides.

Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 02:48:36 PMit's just the fact it doesn't appeal to YOU. You haven't argued people wouldn't buy it. I know I'd prefer a Troublesome slate truck that was model series styled. I'd buy a rake of them. Many other modellers would too.
I don't really appreciate you making up assumptions about my stance in the discussion that not only have I made no indication is my opinion, but that you boldly state them as though they were. This was a very aggressive, out of left-field accusation to make, and I don't wish to continue discussing this topic with you if this is how you are going to approach peoples responses.
Yes but there's still reference metaerial for the slate trucks, I can find it on the wiki.

It's not like Troublesome truck 3 or 4 or 5 had ruler photos to work off. And well I apologise but that's the impression I got based on your response. If I'm wrong I'm willing to admit it. I'm not arguing I'm simply saying there's a case to made for them, reference photos are available and how many of us Thomas modellers would eat them up. Sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to I was just pointing out they aren't redundant.
Wishlist HO Stephen, Harvey, Porter, Hiro, Whiff. 009 Luke and Millie, N scale Edward, Duck and Daisy

Cheeky_ULP

Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 03:05:50 PMYes but there's still reference metaerial for the slate trucks, I can find it on the wiki. It's not like Troublesome truck 3 or 4 or 5 had ruler photos to work off.
I know there's references of the regular slate trucks, I believe both Season 4 and the HiT era had some. It's just a matter of a "troublesome" variant, which are less common, and as stated before, would be a bit of trouble to design with a face in mind. I think the coal truck tooling would be better suited for "troublesome" narrow gauge wagons.

Quote from: Mulfred100 on February 15, 2025, 03:05:50 PMAnd well I apologise but that's the impression I got based on your response. If I'm wrong I'm willing to admit it. I'm not arguing I'm simply saying there's a case to made for them, reference photos are available and how many of us Thomas modellers would eat them up. Sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to I was just pointing out they aren't redundant.
Apology accepted but please don't assume something if I haven't directly stated it; I would personally like narrow gauge troublesome trucks and I think they would be fun additions to the range, it's just a matter of picking the right wagon tooling, and I don't think the model-era slate trucks would be a good choice manufacturing wise due to the size of the scale and the slate wagons design. The coal trucks would probably be a better fit with those factors in mind for manufacturing.

TRAINSROCK!

#835
I had more ideas of other stuff that popped in my head again. (i always seem to come up with a lot of ideas lately).

the new ideas that I got are den and dart. (let me just say I always thought they weren't that bad of characters when they were first introduced i feel the episodede den and dart in season 19 gave them more development).

i also think they could do them just to give a more of verity of diesels for the range. since there's a lot of class 08 shunters in the range. (both versions of diesel the now discontinued arry and bert paxton and soon sidney and the mainland diesel). just thought den and dart could bring a little more verity of diesels.

the other is a ventilated van that's  similar to the upcoming ones for the 80th anniversary. this one is a special one as a memorial van. one that has the names to honor the people involved with thomas.

the rev w. awdry who started the franchise with the railway series.

david mitton who directed all seven seasons.

George carlin the second us narrator.

Ben forster who did the mr. perkins segments. (I enjoyed the ones from the brenner era more than the early ones I just always thought the latter ones where more enjoyable to me).

Michael angeles the second uk narrator.

and of course britt allcroft the creator of the show. (I didn't write on here but I was sad about her death and she made a lot of joy in the world with the show).

I just thought a van with all the people listed that are no longer with us would be fitting as a tribute to what they've brought enjoyment to the franchise all these years.

so those were more ideas I've came up with. so I thought a van paying tribute to them would be a real special one in thier memory.

so those were more ideas I came up with. (I may come up with more as always I'll just see what else I may think about).

Awesometrain77

Tbh i think the 2025 new engine should be Harvey he is the last standard gauge steam engine  from the classic series that would comply with the CGI mandate that they have yet to make I definitely think he would be a bit more expensive but would be worth it

JLK2707


RailsByRick

Quote from: JLK2707 on February 17, 2025, 03:54:39 PMBut how would Harvey's crane operate?
The same way the Wooden Railway, Take Along, Trackmaster, and Nakayoshi models did. The crane arm would just swivel. I'm sure a winch mechanism could be fitted, and the wheel on the side could act as the control to raise and lower the hook.

Personally, I'm rallying behind Harvey and I hope it happens.

RailwayRoundhouse

Quote from: RailsByRick on February 17, 2025, 06:00:53 PM
Quote from: JLK2707 on February 17, 2025, 03:54:39 PMBut how would Harvey's crane operate?
The same way the Wooden Railway, Take Along, Trackmaster, and Nakayoshi models did. The crane arm would just swivel. I'm sure a winch mechanism could be fitted, and the wheel on the side could act as the control to raise and lower the hook.

Personally, I'm rallying behind Harvey and I hope it happens.

I second this. I'm all for characters who appeared in the model eras and Harvey is an excellent one. I truly believe that Harvey can be done and would sell extremely well. After all, if they can make Cranky in 2002, I have full confidence that Harvey is not only a possibility, but would undoubtedly prove a profitable one for Bachmann. It should also be worth mentioning that if Harvey were to hopefully be announced, this would also mean that this would be the first time his real life basis would be available in a ready to run form.