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Started by RailMan63, January 14, 2021, 05:30:31 PM

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RailMan63

Hi, guys! I have invested in a TCS DCC WSK-BAC-8 WOW Kit for my Bachmann #12 ET&WNC 4-6-0. The kit is as seen in the following link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TCS-DCC-WSK-BAC-8-WOWKits-WOWSound-Decoder-For-Bachmann-4-6-0-Baldwin-1922/254807097872?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

This kit includes a 21 pin motherboard,sound decoder, and speaker. I have studied the wiring configuration on the motherboard that's installed in my 4-6-0, and the conversion operation looks to be pretty straight forward.
And, who knows, I may like it so much that I'll upgrade the other 4-6-0 to the WOW system as well !

I have also purchased this item for the 2-6-6-2 :

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TCS-WOWSound-WOW121-Steam-1525-21-Pin-DCC-Sound-Decoder-Version-4-New/254000600018?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

This item should be virtually plug-and-play. The only thing that I have to add is a speaker. To that end, I have purchased a Soundtraxx Mega Bass 27mm diameter round speaker to install in the tender.
It should be a perfect fit,as the speaker opening in the tender measures 27.2 mm in diameter.
I just purchased these items today, and they should arrive within the next week!
And I'll post the usual videos to my youtube channel to show the results of my work.
Until then,
Happy Railroading!

p51

Geez, where were you with this when Trainworld still had non-sound Bachmann ten-wheelers for ridiculously low prices? I'd have bought a green-gold 12 for sure if I'd known this was coming!
Just wondering about the programmed sounds, as someday I wanna have a ET&WNC ten-wheeler with Tweetsie (former ET&WNC) #12's real sounds coming from it...
-Lee

Hunt

Railman63,
You may want to try a High Bass speaker. If it will fit.
https://youtu.be/U3DPNtSxEtQ

Read all the product information and its caveats.
https://tcsdcc.com/1694



RailMan63

P51: I did get one of those 4-6-0's from trainworld. I outfitted it with an MRC Loco Genie Heavy Steam DCC system with remote.  Unfortunately, it was the one that went "bad".
I resold it for slight profit on Ebay, and then turned around and bought the #11 ET&WNC 4-6-0 for exactly what I received for the one I sold.
Worked out great!
I put the MRC Loco Genie in the #11, and I'm happy with it for now.
I may upgrade the #11 to the TCS WOW V4. That depends on how the work on the ET&WNC #12 goes.
The #12 cost me $130.00, but that one wasn't available on trainworld.com at the time.
I'll check and see if the sounds from the real ET&WNC locomotives are available on the WOW V4.
You can be sure that I'll assign them to the #12 for sure should that turn out to be the case.

RailMan63

Hunt: Sounds great. I'll have to measure the speaker opening in the tender of the 4-6-0 with my vernier caliper to see if it will fit before I make a decision.
I know that speaker is a little too large to properly fit in the speaker opening on the 2-6-6-2 (27.2mm Vs 28mm ), which is why I bought the 27mm mega bass speaker from Soundtraxx for that model.
I'll let you know how it goes once everything arrives and I manage to put everything together and get it working right.
At the moment,I'm working on installing a LGB #65001 American Steam Sound module in the tender of my LGB #23191 Mogul.
I ordered a Massoth 57mm speaker to replace the one that comes in the module.
I was told by a very knowledgeable person that this is a great sounding speaker, and it's much better than the one from LGB.
We'll see.
,

RailMan63

#5
OK. Installed the 21 pin decoder board in the 2-6-6-2 . Put the loco and tender on the tracks,hit the power. Nothing. No movement, sound, or even lights.
Opened up the tender, and removed the TCS sound board. Put the original Bachmann decoder back in place. Train ran fine.
So, is it a possibly bad board, or is the TCS board having a problem with the much older Bachmann/Soundtraxx technology ?
I'm beginning to wonder if I need to buy a new TCS motherboard and install it in the tender?
What do you guys think?
I've already started work on the sound install for the 4-6-0 by removing the Bachmann/Soundtraxx DCC system, and making a shelf to install the new motherboard and decoder on.
I decided to buy the TCS 28mm High Bass round speaker that Hunt suggested. The kit comes with a small 20mm speaker, which,  aside from being way smaller that the speaker opening in the tender, I'm sure would have proven itself to be very unsatisfactory as far a s sound quality is concerned.
I definitely found that the 70mm speaker that I bought for my L*B 2-6-0 sounds far better than the one that originally came supplied with the sound module !
Check it out :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt3H8tdv6mk&t=3s
Later!

RailMan63

I found the problem: The TCS sound decoder board requires an actual DCC controller to operate. It will not work on power supply only.
It's  good thing that ordered this last week:

https://tonystrains.com/product/nce-5240025-power-cab-dcc-starter-system?qty=1

This showed up last night, after I put everything away.
I tested it with the new controller just a few minutes ago, and yes!
It works, and it sounds great!
Later

J. S. Bach

Later Gator,

  Dave

"A fruit is a vegetable with looks and money. Plus, if you let fruit rot, it turns into wine, something Brussels sprouts never do." ~P.J. O'Rourke

RailMan63

Thanks! I plan on making and posting videos of both locos in operation once I complete the TCS kit installation on the #12 ET&WNC 4-6-0.
I'm waiting for my next set of days off from my job so that I can take my time installing the kit in the tender.
No rushing on this project!
Slow and easy is the perfect pace for the job at hand !