Suggestions on Train Show purhases

[Royce Wilson]

Most dealers you will encounter in the show are honest but they do want to sell their wares so some can be pushy so don't let that bother you, remember they are business folks and have overhead. You can use that to your advantage if you spot a used item simply inquire "how low will you go on that as I am running low on funds".

Take advice from an old man make a list of what you need and stop at that!.

I have a basement full of wants and thought I would donate them to some young people soon but they are now into gaming and computers.

Royce

[HoModeler]

My Grandson who is 8 and I are attending our first Model Train and Railroad Hobby show in a few weeks. We are novices on this stuff and hope to learn from this experience. We are starting our own 4' x 8' layout so figured this would be a good thing right? Question is is there anything(s) to watch out for such as poorly made products or dealers who try to gyp me. Do they generally take Credit Cards or cash only? Also how much money should I bring? Are we talking a domestic type car or a high end type car? I know depends on what I am looking for right? Fellows, we are just starting out so imagine how the 2 of us will look, deer in the headlights, candy stores, Christmas Eve all come to mind. Some things I'm hoping to look for such as the rock wall Jonathan uses, some mini lights or bulbs, need fire trucks, police cars and first responders. Oh the list goes on.

Any suggestions or watch out for is greatly appreciated.

Like everyone else is saying don't be quick to buy anything do your research as well before you go Some Train show venders sell JUNK... The train show that comes to my area SELL's ALOT of JUNK & not worth the $8.00 admission fee. Go to Vendors that offer Test Track so you can see if Loco's are working & ASK a lot of questions to the vendors watch there body language if the vendor operator seems he does not seem interested in your questions WALK AWAY.... ( For example if you see a box of train cars & a sign everything in this box $ 10.00 chances are it's JUNK don't waist your money )... Trust me it happened to me I thought I was getting a good deal on some rolling stock & every car turned out to be JUNK & I wound up throwing them in the garbage a waist of $9.00 I threw away.

Sit down with your Grandson both decide what type of layout you both want to make...
Most people in this hobby model FREELANCE Layouts LIKE MYSELF I did a Mountain Scene with some Factories & a Passenger Station & a Junk Yard & Farm & Coal Mine I also have a 9 track yard area & I got proper scenery to fit those scenes for example Passenger People for the station...

Some People in this hobby show there Pride in a certain Railroad & Model parts of that area on there layout as well & only use the proper ERA Rolling stock as well to that railroad.

Also I would visit your Local Hobby Store too you can get a lot of help there as well...

[JNXT 7707]

Like everyone else is saying don't be quick to buy anything do your research as well before you go Some Train show venders sell JUNK... The train show that comes to my area SELL's ALOT of JUNK & not worth the $8.00 admission fee. Go to Vendors that offer Test Track so you can see if Loco's are working & ASK a lot of questions to the vendors watch there body language if the vendor operator seems he does not seem interested in your questions WALK AWAY.... ( For example if you see a box of train cars & a sign everything in this box $ 10.00 chances are it's JUNK don't waist your money )... Trust me it happened to me I thought I was getting a good deal on some rolling stock & every car turned out to be JUNK & I wound up throwing them in the garbage a waist of $9.00 I threw away.

Just a point or two about the above...
Whether you are a beginner or a seasoned veteran, if you see a box that says 'everything in this box $10', yeah it might be junk but you don't know until you LOOK at what's in the box BEFORE you part with cash. Nobody is going to put premium items in a box like that, nor should we expect them to...but there may be parts/pieces/shells/etc. that are worth $10 or more to YOU.
Second point - NEVER throw anything away! 

[jonathan]

Well, Martha, I for one am curious about how it went this weekend.  Any treasure?

I found some bargains.  Had money leftover.  Then our club treasurer reminded me to pay my annual dues.  No more leftovers. 

Regards,

Jonathan

[Martha]

Jonathan it is this coming Sunday and I can't wait! I think I am more excited as I have not attended one before. Connor on the other hand went last year but wasn't into MRR. He told me it was a BIG show. I know it isn't by the size of the building but it will be fun none the less.

https://flic.kr/p/QtpLTN

This is a little steamer I purchase with some other pieces. It is Connor's favorite because it hauls butt around the track and easy to line up on the track. Now this little bugger ran backwards or best I can describe it, it was polarized incorrectly. If you put it on a track along with another engine and applied power they would go in opposite directions and would crash head on. Thanks to searching the internet I found how to fix it which I am proud to say I did! Switched the wires and bam it now goes forward following the same direction the others go. It was incorrectly wired from the factory. I guess it happens.

I will be sharing my first MRR show and tell you all all about it!

[jbrock27]

Lots of excellent advice already given here.  Although, personally not a fan of "The Train Show" for several reasons, including the entry fee, parking fee, cost of gas and inherent handicap in being able to effectively "price shop" as touched on, it is a great thing for kids to get to and to make a family day out of it.

Quite a few ATM's also.
Many vendors do accept credit cards but I prefer to use cash.
richiy

ATMs are only good if they are for your bank and don't charge you what is an exhorbitant fee to take money out of them...
I prefer NOT to use cash if I have the option to use a CC instead, more consumer protections if things go south on the purchase.  Don't like using "debit cards" for the same reason.

The dangerous vendors are the ones who take credit cards

Regards,

Jonathan

Why "dangerous"   You must mean dangerous for you bc you would then be tempted to spend more, right?  LOL  Well that is where self discipline comes into play .    I like using a CC for reasons I have stated above and previously.  If I had a choice between a buying from a vendor who took a CC and one that only took cash and the price difference was not significant, I am gong with the CC.

[Martha]

Well folks despite we had yet another snow storm on the day of the show I made it through my first train/hobby show and came out broke . Connor mentioned on our way home that next year I need to bring more money!!! I said I think he needs to do odd jobs to buy more stuff next year! Due to the nasty weather conditions it wasn't crowded so we could take our time. Now I don't know jack crap about these types of shows but I would say this is a tiny show. There were around 25 - 30 vendors trying to go by memory. several selling thomas the train stuff and lots selling Lionel large scale guessing O scale? There were several layouts set up. Keep in mind I'm with an 8 yr old that is hoping to purchase LOTS of stuff. Our first buy was a Erie US Postal railway car $5.00 in the box. Next we came upon the actual one and only HO Scale Engines table. All in original boxes and priced I felt reasonable and make an offer pricing. The story behind that table of mostly Atheran products was a man had rooms and rooms in his home filled with train products he also had storage units filled. Due to age and illness he was put in a retirement home and all his stuff was sold. The guy didn't even have a layout, he just collected the stuff so it was priced to sell. Connor is in love with Amtrak and Metro North, he has a Amtrak engine and cars already but there set on that table a brand new Blue & Silver Amtrak engine. It now is part of the C & G Railroad lol. He also spied a really nice diesel that actually we both liked. Now this is were things go wrong. I took everyone's advice/suggestions very serious and took that with me however, yes however, I didn't even know dummies existed or if I had heard about them it slipped my mind. We purchased what we thought was a really nice GE Dash 9 engine only to bring it home to realize it was fake. I am still beating myself up over it. The "great" deal I made didn't turn out so good. Connor the great little guy he is said "It's ok Grammy it still looks good on the track". We proceeded to pick up a few cheap items, little vehicles and such. Luckily there was not an ATM machine nor did they accept debit or credit cards if there had been I'd of spent a lot more on buildings.

Now can anyone explain why some Ho scale buildings seem to be of a different size HO scale? I seen some smaller versions of some of our buildings that both are suppose to be of the same scale. The vendor said its based on the size of the front door?  He had lots of pre erected buildings and lots of kits. I really wanted several of them. At another table I spied the power plant Jonathan has so expertly created. I also eyeballed Brass engines and tenders that I believe Jonathan also fancies.

All in all we had a great time. We came home ate a quick lunch and spent hours playing with our purchases. I think I know the answer to the question is there any inexpensive way to turn our dummy into the real McCoy?

I look forward to the next local show that is a lot bigger I'm told. Thanks once again for all your advice and knowledge you shared with Connor and me.

M

[WoundedBear]

I would say you were looking at N scale versions of HO kits and that vendor you were talking to has no clue about the hobby......he just buys and sells stuff.

Other than the misstep on the Dummy Loco, it sounds like you did all right.

Sid

[jbrock27]

Nope, no "inexpensive" way to power outfit a dummy.  I would cut your losses and leave as is.  How does it roll?  What make?

HO scale is HO scale, no variances other than their comparative sizes, ie: "Grammy's Outhouse" is going to be smaller in size than "The First Federal" bank building.

[Len]

Sometimes you run into a situation where HO (1/87 scale) and OO (1/76 scale) stuff gets mixed together at shows and sold generically as "HO". The size difference isn't really noticable unless you set them next to one another. And locos and rolling stock for both scales will run on HO track.

Len

[jonathan]

Sounds like you had some fun, and that's what it's all about. 

First starting out, I bought things that I never used. We live and learn. I've tinkered with structures and engines that ended up in my parts boxes.  Eventually, some things get a second life.  I tend not to throw anything away, as parts become useful later on... well, horn hook couplers get tossed for sure.

Congrats on your first shopping trip.  I always have fun searching for inspiration.

Regards,

Jonathan

[ebtnut]

When I was at the Timonium train show the other weekend I found a loco I had been after for a good while at a fair price.  After I bought it, I then found two more for even less, but I was OK with what I had since it is going to be a kit-bashing project.  What I also saw but passed by was an American OO scale ten-wheeler kit.  It didn't register with me until I got home that U.S. OO uses a track gauge of 3/4 inch which is three feet in O scale, or On3.  In fact, the NMRA standards gauge for On3 is labeled On3/OO.  OO scale uses the same wheel and flange standards as HO, so they are essentially to scale in O.  I principally model in On3, and that kit could have been the basis for a free-lance On3 loco, maybe using parts from a Bachmann On30 loco.  I can hope that, since OO is long out of favor, I might see the kit again at the next show.