On30 4-6-0s needing crew figures, what'll fit in those cabs?

Started by p51, April 13, 2015, 06:15:20 PM

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p51

I have four Bachmann On30 4-6-0s that I want to put at least engineers at the throttles, the firemen can be at the coal bunker on the tender if need be.
What commerical crew figures will fit inside the cab of one of these? I have a set of Woodland Scenics crew figures, but none will fit through the cab windows or are thin enough to fit between the cab wall and the firebox.
I need figures which can be slid through those small cab windows.
Has anyone managed to find figures which will fit?

-Lee
-Lee

Len

If your figure is from the A2733 set, you may have to just cut the legs off and let an arm hanging out the window support the figure.

Len
If at first you don't succeed, throw it in the spare parts box.

p51

Quote from: Len on April 14, 2015, 12:38:01 PMIf your figure is from the A2733 set, you may have to just cut the legs off and let an arm hanging out the window support the figure.
That's the set, all right. I thought about making them legless (had to do the same with all the passengers in my coaches) but they still seemed awfully wide even then.
I assume you've done this yourself?
I have four On30 ten-wheelers, I can always mess with one to see how the others would work. I know in real life those Baldwin cabs were crazy tight, even for the thin men on the ET&WNC who ran that prototype locomotive.
-Lee

Len

I don't own a 4-6-0, but I've had to chop the legs for some other locos. Another option is to use an 'S' or 'HO' scale figure and just say he was the "runt of the litter".

Len
If at first you don't succeed, throw it in the spare parts box.

NarrowMinded


p51

Quote from: NarrowMinded on April 15, 2015, 11:07:08 PM
I use artista figures, i feel they are truer to scale the others.
http://www.arttista.com/
I have a couple of their figures, but no engine crew figures just yet. They're actually tough to find, I've found.
I'm looking to see what figures people have actually placed into a Bachmann On30 ten-wheeler.
-Lee

Len

Like I mentioned above, I don't own an On30 4-6-0, but out of curiousity how hard would it be to remove the cab to install the figure?

Len
If at first you don't succeed, throw it in the spare parts box.

p51


Quote from: Len on April 17, 2015, 06:54:58 PM
Like I mentioned above, I don't own an On30 4-6-0, but out of curiousity how hard would it be to remove the cab to install the figure?
Removing the cab is a moot point in regard to the figure fitting inside as there's almost no room at all for a figure to fit all the way down to the cab floor.
I've seen the prototype for the Bachmann 4-6-0, formet ET&WNC # 12 at Tweetsie RR in Blowing Rock, NC. Those cabs were ridiculously tight and crews there would rather run their former White Pass 2-8-0 as that cab is pretyt comfortable. The Baldwin ten-wheelers had cabs astride the firebox, not behind it. The engineers must have roasted in the summer time while running them.
I've seen lots of photos of the ET&WNC engineers and they were all very small men, at least the ones who ran those ten wheelers.
I decided to cut down some of the woodland scenics figures, ridiculously so (one is just a 'pie shaped' wedge of the figure itself, all were cut off at the waist or much higher). Four fit in the cabs, the other two won't at all as they have outstretched hands on each direction. I will either:
-Do arm surgery on them
-Sell them or use them elsewhere on the layout
-Buy some artistta ones, if I can find the right ones (they'll need to be badly cut down even then).
-Lee

Joe Satnik

Union of Missing Limb Operators.  (UMLO)

Initiation dues:  An ..   (No, I can't say it....)

Joe
If your loco is too heavy to lift, you'd better be able to ride in, on or behind it.

p51

Quote from: Joe Satnik on April 20, 2015, 09:42:38 PM
Union of Missing Limb Operators.  (UMLO)
I guess it's a good thing I model the WW2 era, when unions didn't have much power to speak of!
But I suspect many a scale hogger on a layout is missing legs...
-Lee

Len

QuoteThe Baldwin ten-wheelers had cabs astride the firebox, not behind it. The engineers must have roasted in the summer time while running them.

Sounds like a PRR GG-1 with the steam generator and electrical equipment between the cabs. There's a reason so many pictures of them have the engineer hanging out the window, even in the winter time.

Len
If at first you don't succeed, throw it in the spare parts box.

p51

Here's ET&WNC # 10 (going through a rebuild at the Northern Pacific South Tacoma shops in 1943 after a year on the White Pass & Yukon), showing very well the firebox and the back of the cab, showing the unusual placement of the cab on the backhead. When 10 and 14 (a twin Baldwin) returned to Alaska, they had cabs which were much further back.
Anyway, this is what the Bachmann On30 ten-wheeler's backhead looks like:
-Lee

ebtbob

I work part time in a local train store.   The building has two stores under one roof,  one being for Lionel,  etc.   They have rubber engineers for Lionel trains that will work.   You have to cut the body off at the waist and open up the arm pit a bit so that the arm fits over the edge of the window.  They cost about $3 each.  Store is Hennings Trains,  128 S LIne Street,  Lansdale, Pa 19046(?).   215-362-2442.  They are open Tues-Sat.
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