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Started by bob kaplan, July 21, 2014, 11:44:13 AM

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bob kaplan

I have a couple of Connie's dating back to the original release.   ( Very long time ago)  They are working great (still think it is one of Bachmann's better engines) on my indoor layout.  But with all the failure of the plastic gear, I have purchased a brass gear and axle for each one of them.  Considering these are of the original run, would it be a sound move to send them to Bachmann and ask them to replace axle/gear (nope.....not going to do it myself) for the $75.00.  A call to Bachmann's service department provided me with the info that they might have been replaced already and might never fail.
   Thanks for the advice.

Loco Bill Canelos

Bob,

As nice as that would be, I do not see how that is possible unless they were sent in for repair at least once since you bought them.

Did they explain how the gears were replaced without you sending them in??
Loco Bill,  Roundhouse Foreman
Colorado & Kansas Railway-Missouri Western Railway
Official Historian; Bachmann Large Scale
Retired Colorado RR Museum-Brakeman-Engineer-Motorman-Trainman
There are no dumb or stupid questions, just questions!

bob kaplan

He stated that he had been there for five years and repaired many that were new and then sent them to dealers....at least that seemed to be the idea behind his statements....left me a bit confused...and that is why I am asking for advice....would it be logical for me to send the early Connie in to have the gear replaced?

Chuck N

Bob:

Where do you live?  There might be someone on this forum who lives nearby who could do the swap, or look over your shoulder and give advice. Especially since you already have the replacement parts.

When the gear on mine broke a few years ago I had Barry Olsen (BARRYS BIG TRAINS, Phoenix, AZ) replace the entire drive train.  Everyone I know of who has Barry's replacement has been very happy with it.

Since you don't want to do the fix yourself, I'd wait until your gear slips and get it repaired then.  Your early engine will probably fail sometime.  Your newer one might not.  How long have you had the newer one?

Chuck

Kevin Strong

The brass gear just came out a year or two ago, so I'm a little foggy as to how it could have been "repaired" at the factory prior to that.

My suggestion mirrors that above--run it and be happy. If the gear never breaks, consider the brass gears cheap insurance. If it does, then you've got the replacement on hand. It's actually a very simple fix on the "Connie" (much easier than on the 2-6-0/4-4-0), and is documented on the FAQ if I recall. If you're squeamish about doing it yourself, there's very likely someone nearby who would be willing to do the work for a case of their favorite beverage. Unless their favorite is Dom Perignon, you should come out well ahead of packing and sending the loco to Philly.

Later,

K

bob kaplan

Thanks for your input all...it is appreciated.   I have the sales slip for the "new" engine....it was purchased in 2006.  The others were purchased at the time the original Connie was released....wow...I bet it has been a while...but they still run fine....when was it first released??....thanks.

Chuck N

I have been buying "G" trains since about 1980.  I just checked my inventory, unfortunately, I don't have a date when I got my Connie.  I started adding dates in 2004, therefore it is at least 10 years old.

You have had remarkable fortune in the longevity of your Connie gears.  I have a couple of questions.

How many cars do you usually pull, is the track level, what is the diameter (radius) of your curves? 

If you are putting minimum stress on the engine that might explain your good fortune.

Chuck

armorsmith

Bob,

I will echo what others have said. However, if you feel frisky and wish to tackle it yourself, here is a link to a 'How To'
http://www.the-ashpit.com/mik/gear.html which is originally written to replace the original Bachmann gear with a North West Short Line gear. It does however cover all the necessary steps to remove and replace the original axle with a new one. I can say from experience that I have never before opened one of the Connies up and changed two engines axles in about two hours. I really is easy. Mik has done an excellent job on the how to.

Good luck Bob

Bob C.

bob kaplan

Hello Chuck,
    My layout is in the basement with 16000LGB curves and switches.   The length of the train averages approx. 8 cars (Bachmann lg scale and AMS 1.20.3).  i do a lot of switching.  One point in the Connie's favor is that they are not subjected to extremes in temp, there for the coefficient of expansion between the plastic and the metal axle perhaps is less important.  The track is level....well at least the best i was able to do.    ;D

Loco Bill Canelos

Bob,

The first year the Connie was released was 2001.   I have two I bought when they first came out, one is still going strong, I have replaced the gear on the other.   I agree with the don't fix it until it breaks guys, then send it in.   If you live near St Louis I could walk you through the process of doing the replacement.  Let me know if I can help.

Bill
Loco Bill,  Roundhouse Foreman
Colorado & Kansas Railway-Missouri Western Railway
Official Historian; Bachmann Large Scale
Retired Colorado RR Museum-Brakeman-Engineer-Motorman-Trainman
There are no dumb or stupid questions, just questions!

Chuck N

Bob:

Thanks for the answers.  Your nearly constant temperature environment may be the answer.  I run my Connie all year outdoors.  The temperature when I run ranges from below freezing to 90sF.  It is stored in an unheated garage when not running. 

It would be interesting if others who limit their Connie's to indoor running would comment.

Chuck

bob kaplan

Thanks for the offer Bill....but i live in the great Upstate New York area...i don't even know of another model railroader in the area.   There is a hobby shop in the next town over, but no large scale stuff and no large scale modelers.   A lone wolf of sorts.   That is why I enjoy this form so much!!  I have tried to do a bit of tinkering before, especially with the Annie, but usually have a piece or two left over.  :-[
  It looks like the recommendations are to leave things the way the are...and so be it.  Again thanks to all for the comments.  I appreciate your time.
bob

Chuck N

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Bob:

Have you tried visiting any of the more general LargeScale sites, not limited to a specific manufacturer?

I use <mylargescale.com>, but there are others as well.  You can lurk in the background and not register to get an idea of how it works.  If you want to post questions, you need to register.  With a broader site you might be able to make contact with other LARGE SCALERS  in your area.  I know there are some on MLS in the Buffalo/Rochester area.

This is a great site for Bachmann products, but it is limited to Bachmann.

Later, I'll try to post link to a poster on MLS who has an indoor layout in the Albany area.

Chuck

edmc

Bob, are you near Rochester, NY...?
Ed

Chuck N

Bob:

Here is a link to a thread on MLS to someone in the Albany area.

http://forums.mylargescale.com/11-public-forum/37714-problem-accucraft-brass-rail.html

He has other posts there.  A search on his user name might be of help.

Chuck