Revised 4-4-0

[Royce Wilson]

Harold has a good plan! .That looks good.

Royce

[Royce Wilson]

I hope that more folks than Harold and I care about this project.

Royce

[rogertra]

I hope that more folks than Harold and I care about this project.

Royce

Nope.  you're the only two. 

Cheers

Roger T.

[richg]

Harold is in other forums and some are following him. I have used his suggestions for pick-ups and they work very well for the tender drive locos, especially when running DCC. Really needed. Four wheel pick-ups on the tenders are needed, even with the Bachmann 4-4-0 and low driver 4-6-0 with the shorter tender.

Rich

[rogertra]

Harold is in other forums and some are following him. I have used his suggestions for pick-ups and they work very well for the tender drive locos, especially when running DCC. Really needed. Four wheel pick-ups on the tenders are needed, even with the Bachmann 4-4-0 and low driver 4-6-0 with the shorter tender.

Rich

Bachmann as well as all other manufacturers should have all wheel pick up on all their tender wheels,  rather than one side on the front truck and the other side on the rear truck.  Surely that is just a pennies in cost improvement but makes a major improvement in DCC pick up.

Hint, hint Mr. B.


Cheers

Roger T.

[hminky]

Manufacturers should use the journal pickups utilized in N-scale.

Less friction and better pickup. The Athearn/MDC HO old time locomotives used pickups in the journals so it ain't that hard.

Harold

[richg]

My Roundhouse DCC 4-4-0, 2-6-0 and 2-8-0 have four wheel journal pick-ups. Very nice arraignment.

Rich

[macbmac1]

Hello:

Long time lurker, but now that Bachmann has announced the new American, I can't wait!!  I've done a couple re-motors / DCC / Sound ala Harold, and they are nice runners.  As for the wheels, yes, anything bigger than what's on there now.  As for the V&T, most of their loco lead wheels, as well as tender wheels, were 26"; 30" would seem appropriate.  Just my inputs.

Mike
Pahrump, NV

[PoorInRichfield]

I've been dreaming of the day when the Bachmann American 4-4-0's are re-released to the same level of detail and quality as the Spectrum 4-4-0s (of which I own a few).  I've got my fingers crossed that the new American locomotives aren't just the old models with sound boards crammed in. </ End dream sequence> 

[Texianbear54]

Bachmann as well as all other manufacturers should have all wheel pick up on all their tender wheels,  rather than one side on the front truck and the other side on the rear truck.  Surely that is just a pennies in cost improvement but makes a major improvement in DCC pick up.

Hint, hint Mr. B.

Cheers

Roger T.

Roger makes a great point, as well as those who suggest journal pickup; everything possible to increase electrical pickup, please! 

But one more point, and I encourage others to voice their opinion on this as well:  Please consider releasing an UNLETTERED model, preferably with a Russia iron boiler, for those of us--in fact the majority--that do not model the UP or CP. 

Thanks, and I look forward to seeing the new models!

Doug Weiskopf





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[richg]

Below is what I have in some HO steamers and Bachmann should go this way. Very good pickup.
Both sides identical.
Ok, cost.
I have never run a company so I have no idea on how much it would increase the cost of the loco.



Rich

[NYSW3614]

What great news that Bachmann is updating this model.  Please also give some consideration to updating the livery on the UP 119 and CP 60.  Here's some sites:

http://www.nps.gov/gosp/historyculture/upload/jupiter%202-2.pdf

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/promontory/

Joshua

[PoorInRichfield]

I just got back from TrainFest in Milwaukee, where I noticed the Bachmann booth had no old time American 4-4-0's on display.    I spoke to the representative and he said the new version isn't ready yet.   Aside from supporting DCC, the other good news is that the motor will no longer be in the tender.  Apparently there will be a "micro motor" in the locomotive itself which is nice because that eliminates the silly looking plastic drive rod between the cab and tender.

Unfortunately, even the literature they had only has photos of the old models, so it's still a mystery if this new release will look more like a Spectrum loco or remain toy looking.

[Bucksco]

The model is being redesigned and will be significantly better than the older model. That being said it will be a standard line model - not a Spectrum model.

[PoorInRichfield]

Still no word on a release date or even a teaser photo for these new locos? 

My wife rented Disney's 1956 movie, "The Great Locomotive Chase" last weekend, and now I really, really, REALLY want a fleet of American 4-4-0's!