still trying to match up a tender with a 63"high boiler 4-6-0.

[GRZ]

 HI,Im back.I guess I should have left this 4-6-0 63"driver high boiler loco on the table at the train show.ive orderd twice, tender parts for this neat loco,the lady at Bachmann is very helpful however,she sends me what I ask for,what a time trying to find the correct tender parts for it.some one out there must have one and can tell me what I need, the tender from my 4-4-0 plugs in and it works fine.but the tender is too small.and way too low, ive been through my tender collection and I have two that look good,the vandy, the pcb board  I cant cram it in no how-- the other tender has a metal floor,and will take lots of doing to make it a dcc tender.ive been through the Bachmann catalog so many times my fingers are sore.it seems the parts are scatterd over the catalog.and no good way to match them up.both tender chassis one dcc was too short and too low.the other the weighted one I cant find the correct shell for it.not only that its like they never bult this thing,ive looked in the favorite spot the bay you name it ive been there.I hate to give up but I think that's my next move.I now  have enough money in this project to have bought a new one.f rustrated-in  Vermont-Grz

[blwfish]

Not sure what you've got already, but have you had a look at this page?

http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_210&sort=20a&page=2

Looks to me that you'd need a chassis with weight, the tender PCB (which is the DCC and sound board, although it might be missing a speaker), and one of the tender shells.

What have you gotten already?

[BaltoOhioRRfan]

I recently added a new tender to a 4-6-0 high boiler, i used the medium vanderbuilt tender, and with the exception of the tender/headlight works fine, just gotta shave the coal bunker down a little if you prefer and add a new draw bar.

is what mine looks like now with the vanderbuilt, im gonna be repainting it again soon and remove the name off the cab

[blwfish]

The exploded diagram might help:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/dwg/dwgs/H823-IS001.PDF

I didn't track the various part numbers you gave but that page has what to me looks like three different tender configurations, and I'm guessing that you have some of one and some of another. I *THINK* the diagram will tell you which ones go with which other ones.

Beware that the page that contains this is split in a rather confusing way. There are HO stuff, then it goes off into N, On30, etc - and then a different line of HO stuff. If you don't see what you want, keep looking!

[Searsport]

Hi GRZ, the Spectrum Baldwin High-Boiler 4-6-0 was issued with two types of tender.  The NYC and Undecorated versions came with the same tender as the Russian Decapod, and the C&NW version came with the USRA Medium Coal Tender, as supplied with the Baldwin Connie.  Both these tenders have sound and non-sound versions, i.e. with or without perforations in the tender floor, and different shaped weights for whether or not they are intended to accommodate a speaker.  IMHO the medium coal overpowers the 4-6-0 and the Decapod type tender looks best.  Bachmann used to sell tenders separately, but sadly no longer.

The Low-Boiler 4-6-0 comes with the same tender as the Baldwin 4-4-0, but can also be coupled to the tender from the Richmond 4-4-0.

Regards,
Bill.

[BaltoOhioRRfan]

Hey B&O-fan what did you do with your old tender.any why to get a photo of it? GRZ

It was unfortunatly destroyed beyond use. Something got all over it and ate parts of the tender, and the PCB bored didn't work correctly. And the contacts and wheels had green stuff all over them.....can't think of the word for that right this second.....darn brain farts

Here is what the engine looked like before being fixed up though:

[BaltoOhioRRfan]

No I do not know when it was out. The engine you see I actually bout As Is from the shop i worked for. but it wasn't in such sad shape, storage took its toll. I noticed after tinkering with it that the cab was switch from a steel to a wood cab, all the 4-6-0's i have, have the spoked pilot wheels. and I have 6 of them (4 custom painted into B&O, 1 Ma & Pa, 1 Southern,

[Searsport]

Hi, Greg, on some of the points you have made:

New England locos
- The new Bachmann ALCo 2-6-0 is available in Boston & Main livery, with or without "Sound Value".  Whilst it is not a Spectrum it is a new model and high quality.
- The Richmond 4-4-0 is available in Maine Central livery, with or without sound.  This is a Spectrum.

Bachmann controller - if this is the Dynamis, it relies on a line of sight being maintained between the handset and the control box.  You can improve this by putting the control box up high, e.g. on a shelf above your railway.  When operating there is a strength of signal indicator top-right on the screen.  My Dynamis does strange things from time to time, e.g. suddenly ramping up the speed to max or down to zero.  At first I thought I was accidentally touching the joystick with my thumb, but it still did it when I held my thumbs well clear, so then I thought it was low batteries and changed them twice, but it still does it.  It is fine most of the time, but has bad days.  I am thinking of changing to a cable system.

Programming the DCC - I have no idea how to do this, except for the basics set out in the manual, e.g. set the loco name, speed steps, etc.  The manual can be found on the Bachmann website under the DCC section.

Front light - I believe that the DC and DCC versions of Bachmann locos have different bulbs and DCC will blow a DC bulb, so if your loco was a DC version your bulb may have blown when you connected it to a DCC decoder. (I think DC is 12 volts d/c and DCC is 20 volts a/c, but I am no expert)

Tender compatibility - my high-boiler DCC ready New York Central 4-6-0 ran fine when coupled to a DCC / sound equipped Richmond 4-4-0 tender ( just a test).  However, different Bachmann tenders have different pin configurations, so you cannot simply pair any tender to any loco - if something is not working it may be a matter of needing to swap a couple of wires.  There has been a lot of discussion about this on this board - search for "Tender Swap".

Best Regards,
Bill.

[wjstix]

Maybe I'm missing something?? You know you can buy entire Bachmann tenders 'ready to use', I've bought several from TrainWorld to use in projects. You don't have to try to buy all the parts separately.

Also, not sure what you mean by the tender being too "low" - the body looks low, or the connection to the engine is too low, or ?? Many steam engines from the 1890's-1910's came with fairly small, low tenders. Often the railroads added extensions so more coal could be added, or replaced the tenders with larger ones.