What if Bachmann made a 2-6-6-0?

[ryeguyisme]

in HO and N Scale

I'll give you a hint, both locomotives have Bachmann 2-6-6-2 Chassis.

The HO one was made from parts from a PFM Brass Model and the N Scale one was developed using 3D Printing Technology

It's a Denver and Salt Lake 2-6-6-0. Some of them were built as early as 1909 they were used on Rollins Pass in Colorado. They were double headed quite frequently with themselves and 2-8-2's and 2-8-0's and were known to do 55MPH with a moderate sized freight behind it. When The D&RGW acquired them they were put to good use and ran until they were scrapped in the 1950's

The unique thing about these engines is they all have had a multitude of modifications done to them over the 4 decades they were around, so not all of them looked the same either. The HO version being created to look similar to D&RGW #3371 but with the ladders on the tender. I have another N scale engine that's  modified already and going to be painted and lettered for #3371

These are really fun engines, I must say 

[Thomas1911]

Nice work, Rye.  Those look great.

How much of the N scale model was printed?  Do you have a 3D printer or did you have someone else do it?   I've been kicking around the idea of buying one.

[rogertra]

Though not a fan of articulated engines, I must admit you've done a really good job on both of them.

[ryeguyisme]

thanks guys,

basically the N scale model's boiler and tender were printed, the original frame of the 2-6-6-2 had to be milled down so the boiler slips right on. I didn't make the model, Matt Myers off South Boulder Modelworks designed  it, and a 3D printing company makes it, right now it's still being beta tested, but I'm looking to write an article soon  on the construction of this model as I have another one lined up to do so

I don't have a 3D printer but if I did, I would probably be doing a whole lot more

[jonathan]

Really nice locomotives, Rye.  Great stuff!

Regards,

Jonathan

[K487]

ryeguyisme:

Just a note about HO 2-6-6-0 locos - if you remember I (we) had a thread on this in February 2012 here: 

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,19868.0.html

With a metal shell like on the HO Heavy Mountains, talk about the possibility of a great, all-around* steam locomotive(s) for model railroad layouts - WOW.

* 6 powered axles; metal shell for traction; small wheel base; minimal overhang (pivoting both driver sets) for basically no cutting back scenery; tender booster (fake but visually cool); various road names (I wouldn't even care if some of the road names were not prototypical); crew in the cab; plus more.

If Bachmann were to produce these they would be continuing a line of very successful steam locos - the EM-1, the 2-6-6-2, and now the 2-6-6-0.  A win-win for all concerned.

I'll confess that my favorite way of model railroading is watching loooong, sloooow, drag freights.  A pair of these 2-6-6-0s on the head end would fit that perfectly.

K487

[ryeguyisme]

Thank Jonathan,

I'm a bit surprised you haven't done anything like a 0-6-6-0 yet, have you ever seen the B&O 2-6-6-4's???

K487,

indeed, but if you dig deeper like they could make an 0-6-6-0 early version of this type of locomotive like for the Denver Northwestern and Pacific:

You can tell already the unique differences like the tender, the headlight and the steam pipes, makes for a good turn of the century mallet and then later when The Denver and Salt Lake took over they added lead trucks to the engines for better tracking

as time went on you saw modernization with the Denver and Salt lake



And then their final incorporation into the D&RGW where they ran til their final days:


Essentially you could have 8 different engines, from the same prototype with 3 different roadnames and potentially some made up ones. The engines went through all sorts of cosmetic changes if you notice in the photos, which would be perfect for bachmann because they can offer variety for modelers who model early-golden age or late steam just based on different details alone

[Pacific Northern]

The 2-6-6-0 looks really awesome. I would definetly pick up one or two if Bachmann decided to make the.

I remember reading an article that CPR had built a small number of 0-6-6-0 to test out on the Rocky Mountains. Unfortunately these engines did not meet CPR's expectations and after a few years they were rebuilt as 2-10-0's at the CPR's shop.

[J3a-614]

Great models, Rye, and it's interesting to see how nicely the N scale version turned out.

Here is a site where someone is building one of these in Gauge 1; I've included it because it has some prototype information, including drawings.

http://www.cumberlandmodelengineering.com/KonradGallery.html

Other roads besides the D&SL-D&RGW ran this wheel arrangement in North America.  They included the Virginian Railway and the Clinchfield.

http://www.wvrailroads.net/index.php/Virginian_Railway_2-6-6-0_Mallet_Articulated_Compound_Steam_Locomotive

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/articulated/?page=vgn

As noted, a number of the D&SL's 2-6-6-0s were originally built as 0-6-6-0s.  At least one historian has suggested the strongest inspiration for these locomotives would have been the B&O's original Mallet, No. 2400, "Old Maude."

http://www.wvrailroads.net/index.php/Baltimore_and_Ohio_0-6-6-0_Mallet_Steam_Locomotive

Source page for the two sets of drawings; definitely worth exploring!

http://www.wvrailroads.net/index.php/Main_Page

[J3a-614]

Having trouble finding anything on Clinchfield's early Mallets; so far this is the only thing I've been able to turn up:

http://www.appalachianrailroadmodeling.com/protophotos/crrwreck.jpg

I'm also finding these may have been early 2-6-6-2s. . .

The Canadian Pacific 0-6-6-0s were rather unusual, with a different cylinder arrangement than what was normally seen on Mallets:

http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10860

[rogertra]

Here's a much better piece about the CPR's R2 class 0-6-6-0 engines.

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cpr_steam/decapod.htm

[ryeguyisme]

wow those CPR 0-6-6-0's were pretty interesting I must say

J3a,
those VGN 2-6-6-0's look pretty similar to the D&SL engines with the exception of the boiler tapering

Ifeel like so much can be done with the bachmann 2-6-6-2 chassis, I have plans to make a D&RGW L-67 2-6-6-2 and a Ex-N&W 2-6-6-2 using the same chassis





I have an L-62 I made from a mantua chassis but the drivers are too small and the engine sits too low so I'm not satisfied, although I will keep the engine the way it is anyways

[GN.2-6-8-0]

Curious as to how the bachmann running gear is holding up with the heavier brass superstructure?

[J3a-614]

I feel like so much can be done with the Bachmann 2-6-6-2 chassis, I have plans to make a D&RGW L-67 2-6-6-2 and a Ex-N&W 2-6-6-2 using the same chassis.

Right, Rye, right!!  I took note of that myself a while back, noting that a number of 2-6-6-2s were based on C&O's H-class locomotives--and you've gone further than I have!

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,13420.0.html

Have fun!

[ryeguyisme]

Curious as to how the bachmann running gear is holding up with the heavier brass superstructure?

It's actually maybe a couple ounces heavier than the original 2-6-6-2 shell, not to mention the chassis had to be milled properly so the boiler could fit on, so weight reduction was involved. So I'd say it weighs roughly the same as the original Spectrum model with a subtraction of space it takes.

J3a,

I remember that discussion quite well and whenever I'm busy kitbashing I'm always thinking of those possibilities, I still have a couple Bachmann aux. tenders set aside for a N&W Z1 I plan to do.