Williams SCALE GG1's... have they been discontinued???

[alltrains]

Hi,

I've noticed that the Williams by Bachmann SCALE GG's are no longer listed on the website.

Have they been discontinued?

Thanks.

[Joe Satnik]

Dear AT,

You might still be able to find some NOS on dealer's shelves. 

Google: "Bachmann 41801" or "Williams 41801", "Williams GG1", Williams GG-1", etc. 

to find dealers with stock.

41801  PRR  Tuscan 1 Stripe
41803  PRR  Silver 1 Stripe
41805  PRR  Green 1 Stripe
41806  PRR  Green 5 Stripe
41807  PRR  Tuscan 5 Stripe (my preference)
41808  PC    Black
41809  CR    Blue with White Can Opener
41810  PRR  Green Abbreviated 5 Stripe

Reference: 2010 Williams by Bachmann (print) Catalog, pg. 35

41812  CR    Bicentennial Red/Blue/White

Reference: E-bay.

(Pre-Bachmann) Williams Electric Trains:

GG-100  PRR  Tuscan 1 Stripe
GG-101  PRR  Black 5 Stripe
GG-102  PRR Silver 1 Stripe
GG-103  Amtrak  Silver/Red
GG-104  PRR Green 1 Stripe
GG-105  PRR Green 5 Stripe
GG-106  PRR Tuscan 5 Stripe
GG-107  PC   Black
GG-108  CR   Blue with White Can Opener
GG-109  PRR  Green 5 Stripe Abbreviated
GG-110  PRR Web Stripes (Green?)

Reference:  Williams E. T. "Contemporary Line" (now WBB "Traditional Line") Winter 2003 - 2004 Catalog, pg. 10.   

Hope this helps. 

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik 

[Joe Satnik]

Dear AT,

There are 8 different WBB Scale GG-1s on-line at Mario's Trains.

Only the Bicentennial is missing. 

Good hunting.

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik   

[alltrains]

Thanks for the info on the Williams GG1's.

Yes, I understand that several dealers may still have certain model paint schemes available (I prefer the Tuscan 5-Stripe as well).

However, are the Williams SCALE GG1's being permanently discontinued?

As you can see, they are no longer listed on the Williams by Bachmann website:

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=491_524&zenid=cjjf9ar8u99hhbgvln0cqk1ju3

And neither is there any mention of the SCALE GG1's in the 2013 Williams by Bachmann catalog:

http://bachmanntrains.net/Catalogs/2013/2013_Williams.pdf

Thanks for any information you might have.

[GG1onFordsDTandI]

My guess is yes, for at least a while. The market is so full of scale GGs from various makers. As long as they are readily available on the shelves, I think skipping at least a few years is likely in Bachmanns best interest. I saw it coming, too many releases, too many companies, too close together, but I honestly thought we would lose the semi-scale first.
Oh whahell, it was great while it lasted.

[M1FredQ]

Check out TRAINWORLD they have a big closeout sale going on the the full scale GG-1's.

Just a thought if the center of the  big driver GG-1 wheels "articulated "just a bit to accommodate lets Say-O-42 I think they would be better received.

I have 2 of the semi's and would like if they were 2/3's as the semi's look too short. Not to mention they don't match well with the Williams Congressional Passenger cars unless you go with a 0-27 (if they made Congressional O-27 I don't know.)

I was able to find a set of Williams Congressionals in the original boxes un-opened along with that "mildew" smell. There was some corrosion on the bottom of the Vista Dome car but some good gun-cleaner took care of that.

I didn't realize the high quality of Williams products until I started back in this hobby 4 years ago.

Anyway just my $0.02. After reading articles about the GG-1 its development and service record I was hooked. Also my favorite picture is of a Tuscan Red 5 stripe GG-1 pulling Congressional Passenger Cars over a famous stone bridge at Dawn on a clear blue sky day. That's what got me hooked to have those passenger cars and that Tuscan Red!!!!!!

[alltrains]

M1FredQ,

Unfortunately, Trainworld isn't offering the GG1 in a paint scheme that's on my wish list.

I wish Bachmann would offer the scale  GG1 shells as a separate purchase.  That way one could acquire various paint schemes if your budget only allowed for a couple of engines.

I wish Bachmann would comment whether the scale GG1 is permanently discontinued, or not.

[TrainmanGene]

I think they'll bring them back soon possibly with a sound unit. I hope they make the as bulit scheme also known as web stripe but I won't count on it since it probably wasn't a good seller.
Remember there still cataloging the semi scale GG1 and everyone and there cousin is also making them.