Locomotive Identification

[CGLowry]

Does anyone know anything about a set of Williams CSX GP-38 AA-103 locomotives?  I don't have a product identification number which doesn't give much to go on.  They're not a currently offered product that I've been able to determine.  I'm especially interested in determining if they're O gauge, scale or traditional/baby etc.  I appreciate any information anyone can provide.

[Joe Satnik]

Dear CGLowry,

Guessing an earlier horn only model (TB or TBI)?

The Williams (pre-WBB) Winter 2003-2004 Contemporary (now "Traditional") line catalog shows GP38-200 through -214 with TBII sound, no -1xx numbers.

Powered (no suffix) and Dummy ("D" suffix) sold separately.

Example item numbers shown:

#GP38-205 powered CSX
#GP38-208D dummy New Haven

I'm guessing that they are copying Lionel's modern era GP-38. 

My Williams Chessie System GP-38 (-204), road number C&O 3892 measures

15-1/8" coupler face to coupler face,

14" handrail to handrail,

2-3/4" cab width,

3-3/4" rail head to top of fan.

I'll leave it to you to figure out if that is scale or not.  (1/4" = 1 foot is "O" scale)   

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik

[CGLowry]

Thank you very much.

[Joe Satnik]

Dear CGLowry,

Looking through my old box of catalogs I found the (pre-WBB) Williams Winter 2005 "New Arrivals Sale" folded 2-sided poster catalog.

"Expires 2/31(sic)/2005" 

I wonder if 3rail got 3 extra days pay that year?

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/joebarb/scan0001.jpg

Note that each has a single motor. 

Don't know if one is wired in the opposite direction (for back-to-back lash-ups) or the same direction (elephant style lash-ups). 

I finally learned how to scan with my old HP PSC 2175.  I have an old computer on my network with XP, so it still works. 

(Apparently no longer supported on Vista or 7.  HP support = "Go buy a new printer".) 

Hope this helps. 

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik