Smaller Loco Suggestions

[ebtnut]

The PRR, the "Standard Railroad of the World" was big into standardizing equipment as much as possible.  The E-6 boiler was virtually the same as the H-8/9/10, and the L-1 and K-4 boilers were about the same.  When Penn Line devised their PRR loco kits, they used the same boiler casting for the E-6 and H-8, and the same one for the K-4, L-1, and even the I-1.  The issue was that the different classes usually had different dome and applicance arrangements, so at least one of the models was not correct.  Also, the I-1 had a bigger boiler than the K-4 or L-1, so the model was a bit too slim.  Carey once made a correct replacement. 

[jettrainfan]

Not too many diesels mentioned. I only want 1 other diesel that's small. A SV-1!

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=80306
^ i know LGB made a G scale one but still...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=22785

[pdlethbridge]

Its because most diesels, except for alcos, don't smoke and don't have side rods.

[Doneldon]

JTF-
Check Walthers.  I just received an email today which says they have an HOn30 loco that looks just about like what you want.  Maybe you can run it on a narrow gauge branchline or rebuild it to standard gauge.

[jettrainfan]

OK, thx!

Just found it! http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/168-5052

[J3a-614]

Industrial Railroading--should have remembered that different world!

Some links to explore, of course:

We start off with a master link, Northeast Railfan (which also has a number of photo rosters, including B&O and CNJ we've been using elsewhere):

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/industrial.html

This is just some of what is here:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel100.htm

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel112.html

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/porter/porter-ind.html

http://www.over-land.com/rrporter.html

Six pages on Plymouth Locomotives, from Plymouth, Ohio; item of note, most were shipped via the B&O, suggesting some interesting flat car loads.  Most photos on this site can be enlarged by clicking on them:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel81.html

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/plw1987.jpg

Look who owned this one!

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_bo25.jpg

Another interesting owner, and check out the exhaust stacks:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/pe1646.jpg

Amherst Barge in West Virginia:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ahs0.jpg

This one is the prototype for a Mantua/Tyco model from the early 1960s:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/lbr3.jpg

It's supposed to be a different locomotive from the link above, but I'm not so sure.  In any event, it's the same type, on the standard-gauge section of the East Broad top Railroad and Coal Company; photo locations are at Mt. Union, Pa.:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/lbr3a.jpg

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/lbr3b.jpg

For plow, work, and towing service on transit lines, Boston and San Francisco, the latter on 5' 3" gauge:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/mbta04443.jpg

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bart0.jpg

A burly 100 tonner on narrow gauge, for Bethlehem Steel:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bscx30.jpg

I believe Model Railroad once published drawings for this one:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ils49.jpg

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1914456

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_moy58.jpg

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cc106-6.jpg

Westinghouse page:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel109.html

This Westinghouse unit is preserved and reported operational at the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum in Washington, Pa.--a museum I can personally recommend:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_arm_b73.jpg

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/arm_b73a.jpg

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=254284

A sister unit, No. 71, which, judging from the background, is also preserved:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ascB71.jpg

The photo says this is on the Northampton & Bath, but I'm not sure; she looks more like something from eastern Europe than North America, and what steam locomotive is that behind the diesel?

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_nb1601.jpg

Can't ignore industrial steam:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/industrial_steam.html

Proper locomotives are painted black and burn coal--except when they don't:

http://www.nrhs.com/web_exclusives/fireless_cooker/index.html

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/steam21.html

It's surprising how common some of these Porter "fireless cookers" once were, and late in era, too; some have been running in recent years.  And take note, in the first photo, of the big 0-8-0 Heisler job in the background; it's still around, in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ppl4093a.jpg

Same engine some years later--"Take that, Thomas!":

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=244912

Another shot of the Heisler 0-8-0:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_ppl4094.jpg

One of two common later designs from Porter:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-u/ues-s4ags.jpg

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/porter/page48h.jpg

The other was an 0-6-0; reportedly one of these engines was still in use at a power plant in Pennsylvania at least into the 1980s, and was rigged up for remote control, like some diesels in steel plants:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-p/pplc-sunk-bv.jpg

C&O had three of these 0-6-0Fs, for use in the literally explosive atmosphere of the chemical plants in Charleston, W.Va.  The were replaced with diesels, which had to use a "handle" of up to six idler flats to reach into some of the areas these steamers could go with safety.  The photo location is at the yard and locomotive facility in South Charleston; the wooden trestle in the background is the southern approach to a bridge over the Kanawha River that lead to an interchange with the B&O (former Coal & Coke) and New York Central (former Kanawha & Michigan) lines on the north bank.  This bridge was also shared with the local trolley system until that service dried up in the late 1930s.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/co/co-s35qlr.jpg

This site is so useful, I'm posting it here.  Most of it is class 1 and diesel, but there is much else, too.  Mr. Elwood deserves great credit for sharing so many photos.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/#c

Enjoy.

[J3a-614]

You always forget things. . .

This hobby shop in Laurel, Md., is a big Bachmann distributor, and carries some other things, too, including dual-gauge track for those little Minitrains mini-trains:

http://www.peachcreekshops.com/

http://www.peachcreekshops.com/images/germantrack.jpg

http://www.peachcreekshops.com/genprods.php3?UID=2010042302415874.111.79.204&val=HOn30_Minitrains

http://www.peachcreekshops.com/wrapper.php?src=prodimages/55785.jpg

Some historical perspective on the original Minitrains by AHM:

http://www.hon30.org/bobhist.htm

From the Tony Cook page, under its AHM section, on the "Early-Time Kits" thread; note the small size of this equipment compared to its standard gauge counterparts in the box cover photo:

http://tycotrain.tripod.com/ahmhoscaletrainscollectorsresource/id85.html

As usual, enjoy.

[J3a-614]

Some more Plymouths:

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=plymouth+locomotive+photos&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=H0bRS4CNO4rq9QT3rOWzDw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CA8QsAQwAA


http://www.ironminers.com/mineforum/viewtopic.php?p=11587&sid=0404daa453bd333ec89fcefcb7a14e14

Industrial heritage:

http://www.ironminers.com/

http://www.undergroundminers.com/

Enjoy.