B&M 2-6-0

[J3a-614]

The desire for such an engine has shown up so heavily, I decided to see what might be available, at least as a stand-in, until such an engine becomes available.

IHC is out of business now, but their Southern Pacific-based 2-6-0 strikes me as looking a lot like the B&M engine: overall size and proportions are about right, drivers are the right overall size, biggest differences are the cab, cylinders, and the tender.  (I didn't mention that the steam dome isn't in quite the right place--if I were doing this, that would be something I would have to live with, unless the dome is a separate part and easily movable, as on Bachmann Spectrum engines.)  Changing these items and a general redetailing job could come up with a decent model, based on the photos below.

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1199721796052120656kBILXi

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1199722903052120656iNoSuY

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35033278@N00/2384498829/in/pool-610150@N24

https://udisco.com/hobbies/pics/990511.jpg

I'm not at all familiar with these locomotives, in either model or prototype form, so maybe I'm full of hooey, but I am curious to know if anyone has tried this and how well the results turned out.

For additional reference, should this work out well:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1199725927052120656NptKIn

Not quite as close as the 2-6-0, but try to find anything else of this general vintage and overall size anywhere else besides brass.

http://trains.arneke.net/product_revues/mehano_ihc/index.shtml

Several of the photos are from this series of pages, which includes some of B&M's other power.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/248777145ocwUSF?start=0

[pdlethbridge]

A decent  spectrum quality mogul, IMHO, would sell very well. It would fit right in the line up of spectrum engines now, 4-4-0, 4-6-0, 2-6-0, 2-8-0, 2-10-0. It looks like the only missing piece. The B&M moguls were a good fit for the B&M and they would be a great asset to the modeling world.

[ryeguyisme]

I'd say I have to agree with that if you make one of those, including if you make them in New Haven as well considering this our club Layout in Canton CT could use a couple of these in our fleet, given the cab style is the same as well, we have one actual prototype mogul on our lines and its a brass locomotive from Samsahoga I believe, I refurbished it back to running condition





It's a lovely engine considering its smooth running and excessive detail, its one of the only engines that I take care of that I'm skeptical about weathering considering how beautiful it looks

[Johnson Bar Jeff]

I'd say I have to agree with that if you make one of those, including if you make them in New Haven as well considering this our club Layout in Canton CT could use a couple of these in our fleet, given the cab style is the same as well, we have one actual prototype mogul on our lines and its a brass locomotive from Samsahoga I believe, I refurbished it back to running condition





It's a lovely engine considering its smooth running and excessive detail, its one of the only engines that I take care of that I'm skeptical about weathering considering how beautiful it looks

If you use it for passenger service, keep it clean and shiny. Good advertizing that way. 

[ryeguyisme]

indeed it looks nice in front of 3 NH heavyweights 

[Guilford Guy]

Everyone is missing out with a 2-6-0!

• Many shortlines owned them (B&M Moguls went to Saratoga & Schuylersville, St Johnsbury & Lamoille County, Montpelier & Wells River, and a few others)
• Most branchlines often received a 2-6-0 or 2-8-0, one of which Bachmann already makes, and the other they should make.
• 2-6-0s were often demoted to yard service, and used on mainline local freights.
• Other than freight trains, they were the backbone of commuter trains, and were used on work extras.

[pdlethbridge]

Considering how good the 4-4-0, 4-6-0, 2-8-0 and 2-10-0 run, there is no reason why a MOGUL couldn't run as well.
WE WANT MOGULS! WE WANT MOGULS! WE WANT MOGULS! Enough said?

[uncbob]

I run the IHC Mogul on the ME&O  depending on what rolling stock I use
It has decent detail and runs great
You can find them on EBAY once in a while

Here is a pic of mine

[ryeguyisme]

I run the IHC Mogul on the ME&O  depending on what rolling stock I use
It has decent detail and runs great
You can find them on EBAY once in a while

we have about 2 or three of these IHC engines on our club layout theyre pretty decent spite that fact that they don't like to pull much

[J3a-614]

Let's see how far we can amortize a common mechanism (63" drivers, same as the 2-8-0, possibly with some of the gearing, belt drive, etc.), and a 6-coupled driver wheelbase of about 15 feet or a little more.

B&M:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1199722903052120656iNoSuY

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35033278@N00/2384498829/in/pool-610150@N24

New Haven (data):

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/mogul/?page=nh

NYC:

http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/NYC1925.JPG

PRR:

http://prrsteam.pennsyrr.com/images/prr5099.jpg

SP (several classes, some of them quite large for the type):

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=311139&nseq=12

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/losangeles/sp1765.jpg

There might be others; only real drawback from this list is that the NYC and PRR engines were retired early (like by 1930 or so), which may limit the marketability of these particular locomotives.

Could this help make your case for a 2-6-0?  

[uncbob]

I run the IHC Mogul on the ME&O  depending on what rolling stock I use
It has decent detail and runs great
You can find them on EBAY once in a while

we have about 2 or three of these IHC engines on our club layout theyre pretty decent spite that fact that they don't like to pull much

Right now I have 2 40ft boxes--2 40 ft gondolas-- 3 USRA filled coal hoppers and a caboose all weighted to standards hooked up and it pulls them no sweat on a level track
How many cars do you think a Mogul on an HO layout should be pulling ?

[uncbob]

Here is the one at Strasberg PA across from the Railroad  museum of Pennsylvania

[pipefitter]

Here is the one at Strasberg PA across from the PRR museum

Here it is on the cover of the latest Railfan & Railroad (April 2010) pulling a photo freight. Nice feature article with many photos inside on the seven out of 25 CN moguls that still exist. They're over 100 years old.

http://www.railfan.com/

[rich1998]

I have four of these. DCC with Tsunami sound.

Maybe this will inspire Bachmann.



Lex

[ryeguyisme]

I have four of these. DCC with Tsunami sound.

Maybe this will inspire Bachmann.



Lex

the thing I don't like about these is they're too old timed for me something more 1900's+ would be more suited